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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-10 03:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #1986 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1986 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 10:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I think he didn't seem to have any friends because he's Loki (you know, God of Mischief) and therefore has probably pissed them all off at one time or another (notice how Sif's hair is dark, most likely a nod to the myth where he cuts off her blonde locks and she gets dark hair instead. Maybe she held a grudge). I don't really remember all that much demeaning and insulting though. There was that comment that went along the lines of "what happened to that silver tongue of yours?" but that seemed more like ribbing than actual demeaning.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It didn't really read as "ribbing" to me so much as making fun of him, and if that's a regular thing I can see how that would seriously hurt someone, even if it seems minor out of that context. (Hell, I get upset if someone comments on how I make my sandwiches [I have OCD, there's a system]... because my family made fun of me for it literally every time I made a sandwich for most of my life. This wouldn't probably make sense to anyone who didn't know that.)

And I don't know. I didn't see any real indication in the movie that Loki had done anything harmful to them or anyone else. If they'd indicated that, it would've been fine, but... absent any actual proof, it just looks like Thor's friends are kinda jerks.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
(Hell, I get upset if someone comments on how I make my sandwiches [I have OCD, there's a system]... because my family made fun of me for it literally every time I made a sandwich for most of my life

Ahhh, there we go. Definitely projecting. See ya.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, fuck off, you offensive, ignorant little jackass.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Aww, you're hurting my feelings :(

Keep that up and you're going to make me throw a big tantrum and attempt to commit genocide. It's all you're fault! /wibble

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, given how you belittle my experiences as a victim as well as the idea that I could possibly see abuse without connecting it directly to my own experiences, I couldn't care less about your pwecious widdle feelings. You're a dickhead. GTFO.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-11 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Come off it. In theory, one could see and note abuse without relating it to one's own victimization.

In actuality the words that you yourself are using to try and justify this whitewashed "poor baby" view of Loki makes it very clear that you ARE projecting. Maybe if you took a long hard look at that possibility instead of getting offended by others noticing it, you could actually learn and grow from your reaction to this issue.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-11 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

No, I don't think I will "come off it." You, and the other anon, are being, frankly, assholes. You are belittling me and my experiences as a victim of abuse.

Nowhere here have I "whitewashed" Loki or called him a "poor baby." As someone astutely said below, being a victim of abuse does not excuse being an asshole. I have explicitly said that Loki being a victim of abuse does not excuse what he did.

Shockingly, I have considered that my view of Loki may be colored by my experiences as a victim of abuse. However, further observation and picking apart my reactions (which I should not have to do, by the way, but people like you and the other anon make me so afraid to dare be seen as ~projecting that I feel like I have to police my own fucking feelings) have shown that no, my impressions were made independent of that. People I know who are not and have never been victims of emotional abuse concur with my observations and came to similar ones independently from me or any input from me.

So no, I am not "projecting," and you can uh, fuck off, also.

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-10 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
da

LOL, basically

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(Anonymous) 2012-06-11 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
You are projecting. What makes it clearer than anything is that you completely overreacted to your misunderstanding that someone might even be suggesting such, and can't even conduct a conversation about it without calling people names and telling them to fuck off.

I sincerely hope you're someday able to get some help for what are obviously very deep-seated and painful issues for you.

Have fun getting this thread frozen too. I'm out.

[personal profile] museridden 2012-06-11 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, in the myth he cuts off Sif's hair and has to convince the dwarves to make her new hair out of gold. The actress having dark hair has nothing to do with the myth, and is probably more like a nod to the comics where Loki takes over her body as Lady Loki at some point, IIRC.
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[personal profile] yeahscience 2012-06-11 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
In the comics, IIRC, it's his cutting and enchanting her hair that makes it turn black.