[ SECRET POST #1986 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #1986 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 119 secrets from Secret Submission Post #284.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0- not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - take it to comments ], [ 1 2 - going to have to be a little more subtle than this ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. They would've said 'well, that's just Joss. Oh, Joss.' Pretty much like the fan reaction to the end of Dr. Horrible.

[(Anonymous)]

That was not the reaction to Dr. Horrible I saw on my flist at the time. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the wider fandom was happy to just ignore the fridging.

[(Anonymous)]

It was on mine. :P

One time, last year, when someome broght up 'women in refridgerators' in media, I pointed out Dr. Horrible as a textbook example. The response? "Oh, that's just Joss. It doesn't apply to him."

And this was on a feminist/safe space comm where that was said.

[truxillogical]

I think the only thing that saves Penny's fate from being a truly egregious example of WiF (as opposed to just, y'know, being a smaller example) is that it happens at the end. As in, her death is literally the end of the story for all the characters involved. So while it is what "motivates" Billy to change, his change and the subsequent consequences aren't part of the story.

It still is a fridging but I guess it feels more...I don't know, organic? The whole thing was supposed to be a tragedy.

I don't know, I get squidgey on the whole "fridging" thing--I think it's a legitimate problem, certainly, but I don't like the idea that while you can kill men off to motivate another character, doing the same to a woman, whatever the reason, gets labeled as a fridging. I mean, last I remember people were saying that Martha Wayne was fridged, but Thomas Wayne was just killed. I don't even understand that.

[(Anonymous)]

As I understand it, Dr. Horrible was sort of an intentional fridging? Like, they play off the fact that she's essentially a character made to die (i.e. the "Nation Mourns Whats-her-name" headline).

[elialshadowpine]

Err. I think I've lost count of how many women characters Joss has fridged in his various shows. o.o