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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-22 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #1998 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1998 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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10. [SPOILERS for the Hunger Games]



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[Hetalia]


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[Video Games Awesome Live]


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[Avatar: the Last Airbender]


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[American Horror Story]


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19. [WARNING FOR general discussion of triggery topics (there's bound to be triggering material in the comments)]


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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #285.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 (warning for rape) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-06-23 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
Clearly not, I mean. I feel like you have a very poor understanding of Katniss' character if you think she was keeping up this big clever ruse without even thinking about it.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-06-23 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
Making Coin think Katniss is in line with her ideals is not a big clever ruse if it takes one word. I think even Katniss is capable of that.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-06-23 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but think about all the small, coincidental things that would have had to go ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY in order for Katniss to even have a chance at killing Coin if that was really all a big plan from the beginning.

-She would have had to telepathically get at least three other people to vote with her.

-She would have had to get them to agree to let her be the one to kill Snow.

-They would have had to have given her a long-range weapon to kill him with.

-Coin would have had to be in attendance.

-Coin would have had to be unguarded and not wearing any kind of body or head armor.

-Coin would have had to have been in range of a long-distance weapon.


All of these small coincidences would have had to perfectly line up in order for Katniss to have her ONE chance at killing Coin, assuming that it was all some big plan from the beginning. It would have had to have begun with them giving Katniss permission to kill Snow, which was BEFORE Coin caused Prim's death, so the details of this just do not make ANY sense to me whatsoever.
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[personal profile] avatarmn 2012-06-23 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
It was decided that Katniss would be the one to kill Snow near the beginning of the book, actually. It was one of the demands she made to Coin in order to agree to be the figurehead Mockingjay. It's because this had already been decided before the 76th Hunger Games was proposed that I think it doesn't hold up that Katniss agreed to the Games in order to get this opportunity. She already had it.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-06-25 07:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but she thought that she would be going in and killing Snow in the Capitol. She had no idea that the plan was going to fail and that she would have a shot at killing Coin in his place instead.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-06-23 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
Let me preface this with I think Katniss didn't make her decision until she said yes.

1) Katniss was next to last to vote. She just had to get Haymitch to agree. She narrates/thinks that she hopes Haymitch is like her enough to understand her vote (with the clear implication that he understands what she's trying to do). These are actual words in the novel.

2)She already had this promise. Not only is part of her negotiations with Coin when she becomes the Mockingjay but Gale confirms it right before the vote. Regardless of Prim, that promise was made public so everyone already thinks Katniss is going to kill Snow.

3)Gale confirms it by giving her an arrow, indicating that it's to the be the last shot of the rebellion. So she already knows there's going to be a long-range weapon, before the vote.

4)By giving her the arrow and indicating its significance, he indicates that it's going to be public. The new leader attending the public execution of the last leader shouldn't have been in doubt, let's be real. It's public. The entire point is that it's the end of rebellion. It would be ridiculous if Coin wasn't there.

5)Now this would be difficult to predict. But the only person who would have a weapon, lbr, is Katniss, which is probably why she tried to make Coin think she was in line with Coin's ideologies and dedicated to killing Snow (by voting for the Games and by giving Coin a rose to pin on Snow). Although again, it's in public. It would be weird for the victor to seem to need a great deal of protection, and even so it's doubtful her face would be covered, since it's in public.

6)It's probably televised, which means that she would have to be close to where Snow and Katniss were anyway. However, even if it were not, both Katniss and Coin would have to be in view of the crowd and Snow, which would ensure that Coin would be in Katniss', a master archer's, range. Ancient arrows can go 200 yards or 600 feet pretty easily and I don't think Katniss' bow would be the one she makes at home.

So you have two and a half major coincidences or the last three (I don't think 4 is negotiable, but it wasn't necessarily certain), would have to line up. But frankly, the fact that was public would ensure 4 and 6 for me. 5 would be the only question.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-06-25 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That's an awful lot of assumptions and coincidences that had to go exactly according to plan in order for her to have ONE chance at killing her. BEFORE she caused Prim's death, by the way. In order for all of that to happen, she would have had to have made up her mind about killing Coin before Prim died, and before she even knew that she was going to be going into the city by herself with a team to kill Snow (because if you'll recall, the plan was for them to go in and get Snow and then bring him back so Katniss could kill him. How could she possibly have known that that plan was going to fail and that she wasn't going to be able to kill Snow in District 1 so that she would have a shot at killing Coin during Snow's televised assassination in District 13 instead?).
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-06-26 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
Let me preface this with I think Katniss didn't make her decision until she said yes.

By yes, I meant yes to the new Hunger Games. Which occurred literally right before Snow's supposed execution. So 3/6 coincidences were already met, and the others were pretty much going to happen.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-23 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. You're wrong. This is a fact. If you asked Collins, this is what she would tell you.
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-06-25 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
FACT. I HAD DINNER WITH COLLINS JUST THE OTHER DAY, OK. I THINK I WOULD KNOW. PLUS I HELPED HER WRITE THE SERIES, SO I'M PRETTY SURE I KNOW MORE THAN YOU DO.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-26 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
I AM COLLINS BODY-MIND-SOUL MATE ON THE ASTRAL PLANE I KNOW MORE THAN BOTH OF YOU SO THERE
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[personal profile] fuchsiascreams 2012-06-26 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
YOU ARE BEING OPPRESSIVE, I AM TRANS-COLLINSARIAN. I *FEEL* LIKE I WAS MEANT TO BE BORN AS SUZANNE COLLINS, AND YOU, A CISCOLLINSARIAN, ARE OPPRESSING ME, A TRANSCOLLINSARIAN, BY NOT ADMITTING THAT.




(note: I am not making fun of any trans* persons; I am poking fun at the recent "transethnic" phenomenon).