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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-26 05:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #2002 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
To the thread: Everything is a remake of something and no idea you've ever had is original. Remakes are just reinterpretations of something that had been reinterpreted already, whether it be a myth, a book, or older movie, etc. into a movie, it had already been done- even if you didn't know about it. So, sorry guys, hating on remakes isn't logical. You'd have to hate everything you've ever read or seen.

And, yeah, I think a remake of The Professional would be awesome with those two. But, they'd probably get Jason Statham and Willow Smith to do it.. so I say let's forget about it.

(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Remakes are works that are primarily based on something else in the same medium.

I.E. the Harry Potter films wouldn't be considered remakes because they're based on a book, but basing a film off Texas Chainsaw Massacre, another film, would be.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-06-27 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
You have to know that there's a difference between being inspired by a general idea and rehashing an actual plot, with basically some mixture of the same exact beginning, rise, climax, or conclusion, and characters with the same names or if not that the same exact personalities and general character growth and the same dialog, in the same medium, right? The latter is what we're talking about. It's highly unlikely that the latter is remake of something else with the same visibility, while touting itself as original. I didn't think you're argument really proved that hating remakes was illogical, since it assumed that the source of the hatred was purely about the similarities, anyway, but your definition of remake, since it does not seem to be the one others are using, also makes your argument fall apart.
Edited 2012-06-27 02:23 (UTC)

SA

(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
My point is, and I apologize if it got lost in my rather snarky comment, that even rehashes of the same plot, with the same characters, etc. in same medium are still different because they have been (usually) rehashed by a different person or people who bring their own flavor to project. Generally, when people say they won't read or watch remakes, what they are really saying is "I already know the plot. What's the point?" But, while you may heve seen a sunset before and know what one is supposed to look like, you've never seen this version of a sunset because you are looking at it a day older and maybe a day wiser and, hey, the sky is awfully pink and doesn't that cloud look a little like bunny?

I know when people say they don't watch remakes what they are intending to get across is Hollywood is lazy and just trying to cash in on the masses. And, yeah, that's true. But, writing off remakes just because they are remakes is shallow.
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Re: SA

[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2012-06-27 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
As you said, remakes are not ever exactly like the original. But you're assuming that the differences are visible, obvious, and important enough to overcome the similarities and the fatigue that inspires. For many people, they are not. The nuances simply don't change much. It feels like the same movie, with younger people and better equipment.

Hollywood has a long and detailed history of making remakes that are too close to the first and moreover contribute almost nothing to the nuances of the original or the remake itself. It isn't in the least shallow to write off remakes when the industry in general refuses to do anything inspired with them.