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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-26 05:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #2002 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2002 ⌋

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OP

(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the feedback! I think I'll try the older films. (And read the Howl's Moving Castle book.)

As for the questions asked:

Spirited Away was titled Chihiro's Journey in other places, yeah.

Princess Mononoke:

The pessimism I talked about was like, for example, in the villages of Iron Town, they all seemed so... resigned, I guess, to live their whole lives changing nothing and then dying. I don't know how to explain it. It just struck me as some sort of very resigned way to approach life and it rubbed me the wrong way.

As for the wife and her husband: I get that it was supposed to be humor, but I really was turned off by how the husband seemed nice enough and the wife hit him (lightly, in a joking manner, but still) and belittled him. Even under the guise of joking, that's not something I enjoy very much.

I did like the moral ambiguity in the movie. I liked Lady Eboshi and what she did for her people, but I was apathetic to all the other characters. They just didn't draw me in, nor did they make me care if they fulfilled their goals or not.

It was just many little things put together that made me give up on the movie. I'll try to watch it again from where I left it all, some day.

Howl's Moving Castle:

I think it was the pacing that really ruined it for me. Sometimes we got a lot of exposition on backstory and characters motivation, then many lull moments, than some wacky hijinks, then more lull moments, more humor, more ambiguous characterization, and then BAM everything is revealed and the witch suddenly lost her mind and what's the deal with Howl? And in the end I had no idea what I had just watched.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked Lady Eboshi and what she did for her people, but I was apathetic to all the other characters.

This was pretty much my same reaction to the movie. I thought the visuals were pretty, but I wasn't really engaged with the actual story because the only character I cared about was Lady Eboshi. She was a boss.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
As for the wife and her husband: I get that it was supposed to be humor, but I really was turned off by how the husband seemed nice enough and the wife hit him (lightly, in a joking manner, but still) and belittled him. Even under the guise of joking, that's not something I enjoy very much.

OP, I don't mean to denigrate you, and I don't think less of you, but I think you must not be familiar with couples. You must not watch any, or have seen many, because light teasing and lightly hitting each other is so normal and completely healthy. It's a sign of trust and love that two people are comfortable and secure enough with each other they can tease without hurting. The husband did not seem hurt.

Calling it abusive is frankly insulting to many healthy, loving couples out there, as well as victims of actual abuse.

I agree, Howl's Moving Castle is poorly paced and poorly developed. The world is interesting, the design is interesting, but I think everything else was done subpar to his other works.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I've only ever seen teenagers or fairly young people tease each other through insults, not older people. We do joke around and tease each other in my family, and my parents do it too, but calling the other "useless" and such, like the couple in the movie, strike me as pushing that line, and I doubt either of my parents or other couples I've seen would ever dare tell something like that to the other, even in jest.

You're probably right, though. I probably haven't met the couples that do that without using it to hurt each other.

Or it might even be a cultural thing. Or maybe it's just my family and other people I've spent time around. I don't know.

nayrt

(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
it's not just the words but the way they're said and the way the other person react to it

when my father calls my mother useless, it's usually in anger and in reaction to something she did "wrong"

this is not good

the film couple seem to be more good-hearted about it

- you useless lout, go fill the water bucket ♥

- yes my bossy darling ♥ ♥

this is good