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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-06-26 05:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #2002 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2002 ⌋

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - text comments ].
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(Anonymous) 2012-06-27 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure if this counts since it's a bit vague, but. There was this gay author/artist/awesome lady called Tove Jansson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tove_Jansson), who wrote (among other things) the Moomin books. They start out as children's books but get a lot more complex/philosophical towards the end.

And then there's a bunch of animated adaptations for those, and personally I'm quite fond of the 1990 anime cartoon version (Tanoshii Moomin Ikka). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moomin_(1990_TV_series)
It's a weird/eccentric children's cartoon, but IMO it's actually really good. And visually beautiful. And has an amazing soundtrack. Just avoid the terrible "second season" that was made some years later. And I think there are a couple "gender role episodes" (don't know what else to call them) which are slightly problematic, which is a bit strange because the series manages to be pretty good with gender issues whenever it's not trying, ie: most the time.

I think there's a lot of LGBTQ subtext in the Moomin world, though nobody makes any fuss of it in-story, and somehow most readers/viewers manage not to notice. Jansson has based several of the characters on herself or her girlfriends. I'm fairly sure that Tofslan and Vifslan (whose English translation names I've managed to forget...) at least are meant to be a lesbian couple. And Too-ticki is probably a lesbian too, since she's based on Tove Jansson's life-partner.
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[personal profile] gottis 2012-06-27 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't call 'Snusmumriken' completely straight either. (Now what's his English name? >_>)
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[personal profile] sel_cordel 2012-06-27 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
"Snufkin". Or "Snuffkin". I think I've seen both spellings. (Not used to the English names.) Though for me, it's more obvious that Moomin has a crush on, or is somewhat in love with, him.

And then there are a bunch of characters who are just vaguely androgynous (I'm Finnish and that language doesn't have gender pronouns and it's fairly common 'round here to see someone shocked after finally discovering that, for example, the Groke or Too-ticki are female). And it's a 'verse where no one thinks anything of an elderly man habitually wearing a purple dress he inherited from his aunt.
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[personal profile] gottis 2012-06-27 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Swedish do have gender pronouns, so I've always known the gender of the characters, but... Yeah, I know what you mean. ^^

I never paid as much attention to Moomin as I probably should have, but... Now that you mention it, I do think you're right.