[ SECRET POST #2007 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2007 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And on the flipside, if you don't do fanart you won't get much feedback (unless you're doing insanely good art, the kind that gets featured).

YOU JUST CAN'T WIN.

da

[(Anonymous)]

...wow, there is a name for my position? Like, I'd prefer if there weren't abortions at all, but I recognize that sometimes that's simply the best decision for both the baby-to-be-born and the mother (and by extension, the family and environment they're being born into).

[(Anonymous)]

There isn't any such type of radical feminism, except in the minds of douchey MRAs. who are terrified of real equality because they won't be top dog any more.

Extreme radfems tend to be seperatists - refusing to engage with men altogether.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

...that's just called being pro-choice. People who are pro-choice don't actually like abortion and they think it would be pretty great if women weren't ever in the position to need one, but they know that sometimes it's just the best choice. You can be pro-choice while also knowing that it would never be the right choice for you personally.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

Ohhhhh. Okay.

[(Anonymous)]

You wouldn't know that from the anons that sometimes pop up around here denouncing the evils of all men, but perhaps those are just trolls, now that I think about it.

[erinptah]

Hey now. We saw Homura trying to save Sayaka, and everyone else in Mitakihara, in earlier timelines. It never worked, and even when Homura made progress, it was erased at the end of six weeks anyway. So she gave up on trying to save everyone -- and who wouldn't? The only hope of success she had was in making her goals narrower and narrower.

Of course it was unhealthy. Homura was stuck in a month-and-a-half-long time loop that repeatedly killed all her friends and left the city she lived in a flooded ruin, and was doomed to repeat it forever until she found the way to do everything exactly right. She didn't even have anyone to count on; all her friendships, however carefully built, were erased when the timeline reset. This is not a situation that promotes mental stability. If anything, it speaks to her strength of character that she never completely snapped and spent a timeline with Madoka tied up in a warehouse somewhere, just to be done with it all.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was alright, but certainly nothing special. Then again I felt that way about the entire series.

It genuinely surprises me when people say that Korra is the example of what a great kid's cartoon should be.

[(Anonymous)]

Aang, a 12 year old boy, is macking on Korra at the end.

DAYUMN Aang, how'd you manage that?

All joking aside, I don't see why people are so grossed out by a 13 year old boy having romantic relations with someone. Do you people not spend ANY time with kids?

[(Anonymous)]

No, it's not. Pro-lifers are by definition anti-choice.

Unless they're using some different meaning for the word pro-life that doesn't include being against abortion.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe try searching up feminism 101?

[ariakas]

Gah, it is so, so gratifying to know that it's not just me. I have a few friends who love Tom Hanks and think I'm just nuts.

I'm not, though - the same thing ruined Saving Private Ryan for me the second they get off the beach. Because yeah, it's Tom Hanks at Normandy. Completely, irrevocably shattering my suspension of disbelief.

Re: lol I know who that is

[(Anonymous)]

Same here. I try my best to only put positive things online and things that I wouldn't mind telling someone whom I'd recently just met in person. That way I wouldn't care if it stuck around online for awhile.

[(Anonymous)]

They're also excellent resources on how to spot the crazies online and which parts of the internet are best to avoid or at the very least not invest huge amounts of time in. Surprisingly FS is very tame compared to places like DA.

Re: lol I know who that is

[elaminator]

That's smart, nonny! More people should go that route, tbh.

[littlestbirds]

okay, I guess I shouldn't have replied so late because now it's obvious what you meant by "gesture", and I understand what you mean more about people putting definitions above actions.

but on the other hand, this side of feminism, the side full of hate and politics, is really foreign to me? I grew up around "feminists" as I understand it, I have friends who call themselves feminists too. We will speak up when people have explicitly sexist assumptions, which they often don't realize they are making. And when I hear women say "I'm not a feminist" it is usually young women who think:

a) women won perfect equality and respect some time in the 90's?
b) feminists are all smelly lesbians who hate men

But your reasons sound very real, and I guess I've just been living in my apolitical little sphere of engineering/retail/international development (an odd mix, I know) and I don't participate in online communities.

So Basically for an idea to become a society-wide pervasive idea it can't be allowed tolive or die on the strenght of one movment, and certainly not one movment that is in such a state as the current feminist movment.

I hope you're wrong about this, I tend to think gender equality as a concept is too widespread to "die". I also spend time around people who work very hard within the system for economic and social change and don't give a shit about labels and "movements". I don't always agree with them, but these practical "talk is cheap and protesting is useless" people are making a difference and aren't participating in some "feminist movement".

And besides that, I am a female engineer who was raised by a 2nd wave feminist and I don't want to let some extremists take away a concept that still has meaning in my life...

ugh sorry for tl;dr incoherence. I hope this explained my confusion a bit more, and I guess I understand where you're coming from now!

[fadeinthewash]

if writers had to pass the test, i'm betting at least some of them would end up figuring out that women can chat about stuff useful to the plot as well

Fair point.

... and there's such a dearth of those, right? so rare.

I'm just saying, there's more to a good story than "two women had a chat," and that the Bechdel test is not the be-all, end-all of feminist/equalist dialogue writing or even necessarily story-telling in general.

[brooms]

no. it's a start supposed to make a person sit down and think, "why on earth do i have such a hard time, again and again, writing a script that passes this incredibly basic test?"

and then move from there.

[(Anonymous)]

Whenever someone criticizes so-called radical feminism for aiming toward making women superior to men I get suspicious. There are valid criticisms of some branches of feminism. Wanting to be superior to men is not a valid one.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember that post.

I think it's very telling that your biggest problem with it was that the posters were being 'man-hating', and not that they were basically shaming women for not being political enough with their romantic relationships.

[fadeinthewash]

I guess I'm just looking at it as an incredibly basic test...that also is pretty meaningless for any one script. It'd be better than nothing, I suppose, but I don't think it'd really be that useful in the long run. We'd just quickly hit another plateau of women having short conversations (potentially still petty and/or sexist) and then right back to manapalooza (either by focusing on those male characters or by having every other conversation be about men). Which I guess brings us back to "still better than nothing" but *shrug*.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not what the anon you replied to said at all.

I realize the anon they were responding to may have been talking about what you're talking about, but it's obvious the anon you were replying to was referring to situations where men suffer because of sexism.

[yeahscience]

Except... words mean things? The term "radical feminist" is often misused to mean "extreme feminist," but that's not actually what it was coined to mean. It refers to a specific movement within the greater umbrella of feminism itself.

[(Anonymous)]

At the moment, maybe. I assure you this isn't the only place this has ever come up.

[brooms]

that also is pretty meaningless for any one script.

i think it's kind of obvious by now i'm not thinking in terms of any one script.

i'm more optimistic than you because a lot of movies just can't afford to waste time on this - brodeoactionbrodeoactionbrodeoaction random scene of nameless women the audience doesn't care about talking about things the audience doesn't care about and are useless to the overall story and characters brodeoactionbrodeoaction.

the clock can tick very fast when you have to wrap everything up in just over 2 hours.

and it would basically mean writers would have to get in more than one woman with a speaking role. i'm pretty cynical, but not enough to believe every script writer would take this as an invitation to be petty and write a 10 seconds scene of the leading lady buying tampons and discussing the weather with the female cashier.

anyway, it will never happen! all will continue as is. yay.