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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-08-01 05:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #208 ]


⌈ Secret Post #208 ⌋

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[identity profile] viorica.livejournal.com 2007-08-01 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
4. Given that plenty people replying think Pullman sucks because he doesn’t like and criticises Narnia, you’ve got nothing to be afraid of. I don’t get it, do people think Narnia shouldn’t be criticised at all? Granted, Pullman’s timing was rubbish (his Dark Side of Narnia essay’s dated the same year as the Subtle Knife, lol) and going for cheap self-promotion but this how-very-dare-he reaction is weird. He gives reasons for his criticism which is something compared to the ‘I don’t like your face!’ shit-flinging you get from some musicians.

And OMG I read that Daily Mail piece about him and it is insane. The usual ‘wtf Daily Mail’ reaction kicks in early and just gets bigger and bigger. Atheists hate the concept of forgiveness! LOL. Maybe I’m kind of siding with him ‘cause the Daily Mail hate him.

18. IAWTS lots.

19. Have you played Partners in Time on the DS? It’s great, the whole game is so charming and everything (power ups, menus, gameplay) fits together so well. And I think you’re onto something, Luigi was more fun there.
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[personal profile] katsu 2007-08-02 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have a problem with Narnia being criticized. But I think there's a difference between criticism and Pullman grinding his "I hate religion" axe under the guise of criticism. Especially since in the grand scheme of pushing a religious viewpoint via literature, he's certainly not any rosier than Lewis.

Oh man. Yeah, and the Daily Mail thing was crazy and uncalled for. I may have my little issues with Pullman, but goodness that crap they said about him was off the deep end.

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[identity profile] viorica.livejournal.com 2007-08-02 02:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally I don't find him grinding axes with his crits, but I haven't looked out everything he said so maybe somewhere he went off on one and started pouting and stamping his big secular boots. His atheist/agnostic perspective's going to colour his crits, but I figure that no reviewer's going to be free of bias so he can keep right on being the Mail's go-to guy/dangerous author for atheism and Narnia-hating.

[identity profile] ex-pinkocrac87.livejournal.com 2007-08-02 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
4. THANK YOU.

I know musicians who practically eat each others' arms off, and it's more than often just grinding an axe as well. Musical schools of thought are sometimes just as cut-throat than religious schools of thought, or maybe scenesters just make it SRS BZNS. But God, Pullman is an intelligent man who has a problem with some ideas. He explores them and holds them up.

I loved the Narnia series, but also had some similar "errr...:/" reactions to C.S. Lewis' theology melting in. Why? OH GEE BECAUSE I'M AN ATHEIST. So, in turn, I loved the anti-religion bent in HDM.

C.S. Lewis could have written just as astute an essay on Pullman's books. It would have been interesting to read!

Not to worry, though, Disney signed the bottom line on two more Narnia movies, so we'll see the ultimate battle of Box Office Theoliterature soon enough. *grabs popcorn*

[identity profile] musouka-manga.livejournal.com 2007-08-02 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Being an atheist doesn't mean you have to be anti-religion. I'd rather be preached at by someone that loves something than someone that hates something, though, personally, I'd prefer not to be preached at either way.

[identity profile] ex-pinkocrac87.livejournal.com 2007-08-02 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's my opinion, I didn't say everyone who is an atheist has to be anti-religion.

[identity profile] zoom-gas.livejournal.com 2007-08-02 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
dear god do i ever agree with this comment