[ SECRET POST #2069 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2069 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[avatarmn]

That's called "giving the benefit of the doubt". ;)

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, very droll and amusing and superior. Because *of course* non-reigious people are more worthwhile.

Not in my experience, buddy. And I'm not even religious. Just fed up with smug atheists.

[avatarmn]

Yeah, I'm not sorry for thinking it's not okay to believe in the ridiculous and base your fucking life on it just because it's called "religion" and a lot of people believe the same thing. Every theist in the world feels the same way about hundreds of Gods and their followers as I feel about all of them but I'm "smug" because I feel that way about one more than they do?

[(Anonymous)]

da

I'm lol'ing at your "every theist" comment, since I'm sure you've interviewed every one extensively. But let's cut the bullshit and get to the core of the matter: when you say "every theist," you are most likely referring to the Abrahamic religions, correct? Because those are the only ones that usually pop up in these discussions (like the others don't matter), and the only ones some people like to pull out to "prove" that religion is "evil!!11 and the people who follow it are stooopid sheep!!1" While your statement would still be ignorant, at least in that case it would have been an understandable, if trite, hyperbole. But in a world that contains many religions that demonstrate religious tolerance, such as the Baha'i faith, Hinduism, etc., your assumption reads as nothing less than juvenile and uneducated.

[avatarmn]

Every theist believes in their God/s and no others, regardless of whether they practice religious tolerance anyway, or not. So it absolutely stands as fact that everyone doesn't believe in some Gods, and so it's trite hyperbole to say that not believing in Gods is smug and insufferable.

[(Anonymous)]

Are you serious?

In certain faiths, they believe that every deity worshiped is just another face of God/the universal force/whatever. That this force reveals itself differently to each person and/or different cultures. The Baha'i faith believes that God is always sending down prophets/manifestations when they are needed. I've seen neopagans send prayers to gods from a variety of different cultures, even those outside of the pantheon they worship. So no, some theists believe in the possibility of other gods. You can follow the path of one religion or deity while still being open to the possibility that you are wrong.

And even if you believe in one faith, why is that suddenly a bad thing? Why does that automatically equate to "smugness?" The word "smugness" implies self-righteousness, which is a very juvenile way of looking at things. Are there those that fit your definition? Absolutely. But you can believe that you are right and someone else is wrong without feeling or acting like an insufferable prick. In the New Testament, a wise man once spoke words of not judging other people, and stated that judgment is reserved for God alone.

Obviously, no one knows for sure what will happen once we die. Some believe in a complete and utter cessation of existence, while others believe in reincarnation, or achieving peace with God in Heaven. All these things are believed without proof, but that is the very definition of faith. It all comes down to which belief system you subscribe to. And those who are humble enough to admit they don't know for sure, or can't prove it, yet still believe in God are more common than you know.

[avatarmn]

I'm totally serial. And Jesus may have said "judge not, lest ye be judged", but he also said "As for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me."

[(Anonymous)]

I cannot believe I'm actually having this discussion.

You realize what you quoted was a line of dialogue spoken by a character (a king) in one of Jesus's parables, right? Or do you just like to take random lines completely out of context and try to pass them off as "proof" for baseless claims?

da

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, I respect that you're Baha'i and all, but you do realize that these hardcore (professing) atheists and professing (proselytizing) Christians ITT are flip sides of the same very bad coin, right? Matthew 23:15 cuts both ways.

Atheist dude is right that professing Christians are evil....because they think atheists are evil, whereas actual Christianity says atheists are NOT evil...they are actually better than professing Christians, because they say, with honesty, if God were to present Himself face-to-face, they would believe. (Which is prophesied to happen. Google "the World to Come.") As long as they're not forcing their (perfectly sensible) beliefs onto other people, it's all gravy.

Other than that, there's this bit in a sermon given on a hilltop in Jerusalem by a certain Rabbi in Second Temple Palestine, long ago and far away, about loving your neighbour? Yeah, like that. And part of loving your neighbour is letting them exercise their free will. (Yeah I'm a Christian who believes free will is a gift from God. I realize that goes against professing Christian dogma. I'm fine with that.) Which both types of proselytizers DON'T do.

TL;DR: The atheists who want everyone to "convert" are just as bad as the Bible-beaters who don't even open the book and READ it, IME.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

I'm actually not Baha'i, though I do agree with some of their beliefs to a certain extent.

And yes, I do find it highly ironic (and funny) that those who loudly claim that the "other side" is full of aggressive people who keep preaching fail to recognize that their own side is the same.

Honestly, if all people just started acting polite, even when they disagree, a lot of problems can be solved. That's something I need to learn myself,m unfortunately.