[ SECRET POST #2078 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2078 ⌋

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Comments

[othellia]

Considering that Mickey was the one who went from machine-shop bloke, to Doctor's computer wingman, to hacking into the Cybermen core, to dimension hopping with Torchwood all while having a gradual buildup of being scared witless by the Doctor and what he represents, to proudly helping him, to choosing to travel with him, and to finally leave, staying in a new world of his own accord...

Even though I would have loved to have seen more, I think Mickey's development was very well done and definitely more consistent and thematic than Rory's.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but all that pales in comparison since it was relatively minor compared to the eventual hateboner Mickey had for Rose. That's why he left. He even admitted as much. He doesn't want to be in the same world as her.

It really dampened my view of Mickey as a character, that he became that fucking entitled. That, combined with his sudden ending with Martha (with no word as to what happened to her previous fiancee, the white guy)? Makes me think RTD is racist and viewed Mickey as a plot device in his Ten/Rose angst first.

[othellia]

The Mickey/Martha thing was original supposed to come around in the third season of Torchwood. They were both supposed to guest star, but it fell through. Why RTD continued to steamroll the way he planned without any sort of editing to account for the lack of development? That I can criticize.

As for the "hateboner," honestly I can't argue with that since there are a lot of interpretations a viewer could take from that. Personally I always saw it as Mickey realizing that the TARDIS life wasn't for him, that the Doctor and Rose had sort of created a BFF-only bubble around themselves without realizing it. And now here's a whole new world where he's needed by people, where his grandmother is still alive and now alone because Rickey died. He realizes that he's not needed by Jackie or Rose anymore, so he lets them go to find a new path because let's face it: grandmother >>>>>>> ex-girlfriend.

[othellia]

Also, Mickey's options if he went back to their universe:
A) Keep traveling in the TARDIS as a third wheel
B) Go back to working in the machine shop

Mickey's options if he stayed in Pete's universe:
A) Blow up things while saving the world from cybermen

[iggy]

Yeah this. Mickey just found a path that would make him happier, and yes he did realize that he didn't really fit in with the Doctor/Rose dynamic.

It's not because he hated them.

[iggy]

Considering that he caused pretty much zero Ten/Rose angst I have no idea what you even mean. Like Rose gets... mildly miffed at him and Ten at the end of School Reunion? That's it.

Also I fail to see how a character who was created and whose character development began in the Ninth Doctor era could be just there for angst with Ten and Rose.

[(Anonymous)]

Mickey did not have a hateboner for Rose, he was (understandably) upset that Rose got closer with the Doctor. But Rose was not the only reason he left, he had his Grandmother in the other universe, and the other universe probably made him realize that he could be his own man. He was growing and he was trying to move on.

I agree that the Martha thing was random and should of been ditched when RTD couldn't put it into Torchwood. But I don't agree that Mickey was entitled or had a hateboner for Rose. By the end of it Mickey didn't even begrudge the Doctor (and he DID have issues with the Doctor) and he really became his own man.