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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-09-16 03:23 pm

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Re: The Middle East and Western Asia riots- Your thoughts?

[personal profile] saku 2012-09-16 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
in islam, depicting allah or the prophet muhammad is considered idol worshiping and is therefore prohibited. it's also highly insulting,especially when allah is cast in a negative light. to extremists - the people rioting - it's grounds for committing violence, despite killing human beings being against islam. rational muslim (the vast majority) understand this. the extremists don't care, and think the violence is justified because it's in defense of allah's honour.

so i think the rioting and violence is entirely connected to the film because the film was degrading and insulting to them.

Re: The Middle East and Western Asia riots- Your thoughts?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-16 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
But none of the people haven't seen the film. In fact, all they have heard overseas is rumors. That it's being shown all the American movie theaters. That it's a huge hit and that Americans are just laughing at Islam and using it as propaganda for anti-Islam reaction.

You know what the "film" is? It's a 13 minute video that was created for a buck fifty. Not exactly the US country wide sensation they are trying to make it out to be over seas.

Also, why hit the British, German and Dutch embassies is this is an American film?
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Re: The Middle East and Western Asia riots- Your thoughts?

[personal profile] saku 2012-09-16 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
disclaimer: i'm not trying to justify the violence at all, i'm just explaining why they're probably doing what they're doing.

extremists aren't logical people. they heard their god and prophet were being depicted and insulted in an anti-islam film. that's why they're angry. further, islamic extremists hate the west in general, not just the united states.

Re: The Middle East and Western Asia riots- Your thoughts?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-16 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's the thing, it's all men of a certain age, (18 to 45) You don't see children or young teenagers. No women. No elders. Just men.

So, I don't think it's Islamic extremists as much as a cultural thing. Like in most riots, it's usually men between those ages that make the majority of rioters. Yes, there are women and younger teenagers, but, again, it's mostly men.
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Re: The Middle East and Western Asia riots- Your thoughts?

[personal profile] saku 2012-09-16 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
that's their culture. it's male-dominated. most islamic extremists (from what i've seen, rather) are male able-bodied adults.

their culture is based almost entirely around their religion so i don't think if you removed religion from the equation they'd still be rioting. in many predominately muslim nations, those in ruling power have extremist views, which give extremist sects power too. so this kind of violence ends up being common and shaping middle eastern culture.
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Re: The Middle East and Western Asia riots- Your thoughts?

[personal profile] al28894 2012-09-17 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Agree with [personal profile] saku above. Muslim culture is very male-dominated and is interwoven around religion so much that in some Muslim countries pulling religion away from their culture is ripping the culture itself apart. The ruling power having extremist views is also an unfortunate thing, though thankfully where I live they are so far removed from central politics that their political views are mainly ignored from the main populace, or any sane person for that matter.

Edited 2012-09-17 03:58 (UTC)

Re: The Middle East and Western Asia riots- Your thoughts?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-17 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Germany, probably because Angela Merkel gave some sort of award to the Danish author of caricatures of the prophet, author whose name escapes me. That's the explanation journalists gave. No idea about British and Dutch embassies.

Re: The Middle East and Western Asia riots- Your thoughts?

(Anonymous) 2012-09-17 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
A 13-minute film created for a buck-fifty by pasty-faced American Evangelical "christianists" who did so with the express purpose of kicking off the next round of Crusades, now that most of the West has figured out it will never win in Afghanistan, and they need some other method to try and bring about their twisted Dominionist evil empire.

The only ones to blame for the death and destruction these riots are causing, are the neo-Nazi Bible-thumpers who kickstarted all this in the first place. You don't yell "Fire" in a crowded movie theatre and expect no one to get hurt, or your butt not to get blamed, when somebody dies because you instigated mass hysteria.