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⌈ Secret Post #2085 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[inkdust]

Eh, I know what you mean.

[(Anonymous)]

IA, anon. /also American

[(Anonymous)]

Because of brainwashing Fantasy = European, usually British, accents. You watch it enough you come to associate the two together so when you see a show sans accents you think it sounds wrong.

[mekkio]

Don't feel bad. Many people feel like this. So much so that it is a cliche. People have even written about this. The only way a character can have an American accent and still be in a fantasy film is if they are from modern times and are transported back in time or to the fantasy world. See Labyrinth for example.

I think it has something to do with fantasy being seen as something old and America as being seen as something new. The two don't add up. Which is why American accents work so well in sci-fi films and shows. Sci-fi usually deals with the modern or the future.

[fingalsanteater]

That's interesting.

I'd also add that there could be a disconnect between an American accent and fantasy royalty and monarchs because the US does not have a history of that type of rule. It's easier to process British king than American king.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe it's because you are American.

Any American accent will probably sound very familiar, while non-American accents will be 'new' and 'different', and thus more 'fantasy'.

[kallanda_lee]

You might have a point. I'm European and I can't even tell the difference between a lot of regional American accents. Sure, I could spot a Southern accent, or a New York one (and obviously the British varieties) - but a lot of what Americans speak is just "generic English" to me, so it doesn't really stand out.

[cloud_riven]

I don't care so much about fantasy accents, but things like irl regional accents always being English kind of bug me.

[yeranonnyharry]

But there's more to the fantasy genre than Medieval England...

[(Anonymous)]

But that's just how it's supposed to be? Most fantasy worlds are more or less rooted in medieval Europe.

[kallanda_lee]

Unless it's *really* a jarring accent, I don't mind so much. Especially if it's fantasy and not historical drama.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm American and I actually feel the opposite. I'm constantly wondering why actors can't just their natural accents in fantasy settings since Earth nationalities don't exist in those universes. I'd love a show that contained British, American, and any other accents without really bringing it up.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh hey, perhaps it's because America never had kings and queens and knights?

[ill_omened]

It's your lack of history.

England for example has Universities nearly a thousand years old, and it's full of castles and other ancient relics.

You don't really get that (at least with white people artefacts), and it's not something you've grown up with so you feel disconnected - especially compounded by the fact that most fantasy is in the European feudal mould.

[silverr]

I agree, OP.

Many good points were made about why this is, and they make sense.

My .02 is that it's speech cadence, and I find that "American" actors who can handle, say, Shakespeare don't bother me. Laurence Fishburne, Avery Brooks, Michelle Pfeiffer ...

(whereas I can still remember seeing Legend years ago and cringing whenever Tom Cruise talked. I wished he'd been a Silent Barbarian.)

[(Anonymous)]

The standard General American accent is actually closer to most medieval English dialects than British Recieved Pronunciation (what many Americans tend to call a 'british accent'.)

//now you know

I get annoyed when people in fantasy setting use RP English. If they're going to have everybody fake accents, then at least use Tidewater or Yorkshire or East Anglian or Ozark or something that at least vaguely resembles what some knights and ladies really spoke.

[(Anonymous)]

UK anon tends to have the same feeling. But I also expect scifi characters to have American accents and feel odd when they don't, so um. Britain's a country of the past and the US a country of the future?

(If that were the case, spaceship crews should probably be a mix of Chinese, Indian and Brazilian? That would be surprisingly awesome.)

[st_jane_ambulance]

I would have LOVED it if the Australian/New Zealand cast members of Legend of the Seeker would have used their own accents (and not only because some of the bit players' accents slipped like hell).

It's a Third Option, I guess?

[(Anonymous)]

Main reason I couldn't keep going through the Borgia show? (Not the Showtime one with Jeremy Irons, the ... other one.) John Doman isn't even TRYING with an accent. It's hilarious to watch. I could barely get through the first episode. Painfully bad.

The Showtime one is exquisite, though.

i take it someone's missing out on Legend of the Seeker

[sensualcoco.livejournal.com]

What about fantasy shows that don't take place in Europe? Or even a fictional European inspired land?

[ariakas]

The most striking difference for me, watching two shows about the lost ninth Roman legion (the one that disappeared in Scotland) back to back, one where every Roman was given an English accent and one where they all got an American accent, wasn't the "modern" versus "ancient" aspect. It was how much more like a military film the American one seemed just by virtue of the accents. The British one more like a historical/fantastical adventure. The British ones seemed more in place in the setting, but the American ones seemed harder, grittier, and more soldier-like. "Oh, this is a military history film" versus "oh this is a history film".

Not quite sure what the implications of that are, good or bad. The British characters were more believable ancients, the Americans were more believable legionnaires.

[(Anonymous)]

I just can't get into any american 'medieval' fantasy with some exceptions...It just doesn't work for me...and especially TV shows! Like Legend of the Seeker, oh my god. That was so not good.

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't bother me what accent someone has so long as it's consistent. Clash/Wrath of the Titans annoyed me with the way it had everyone sounding British or vaugely Greek except for Sam Worthington.