[ SECRET POST #2118 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2118 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[intrigueing]

And why are Steve/Tony so fixated on DUM-E?

Hey now, Dum-E saved Tony's life in IM1. Tony's bots are seriously the most fucking adorable things in the franchise, they're practically his pets. And they almost definitely have feelings, even if they don't have human-level sentience. I mean, come on, they make droopy heads and sadfaces when Tony yells at them, and Dum-E gave Tony aliteral puppy-dog eyes expression made of washers and bolts.

As for JARVIS being sentient...I think that trend is because Jarvis was a human butler in the comics and quite a mainstay in the Avengers books, so the jump comic book fans will make is that he's a sentient AI rather than just a Majel-Roddenberry-Star-Trek-Computer-type one, and the rest of the fans bandwagoned. I dunno, I think it's possible to interpret him as either sentient or non-sentient, there's nothing in the films as far as I can recall to prove or disprove the idea.

Also, if you're running into those Avengers stereotypes that frequently, my suggestion is get the hell off AO3. The Avengers tag in that place is...I don't even know how to explain what happened. It just failed all over into some weird insular groupthink.

[astridv]

I don't know if it's an AO3 thing... could be. I was just thinking how, to me, there seems to be a correlation between these weird OOC characters and the popularity of a story. Right now I don't know where to look for good team fic. You sure as hell can't go by AO3 hit count.

[intrigueing]

If you want recs, probably my favorite teamfic author by far is irnan. She's on AO3 but she's one of the sane ones, and her teamfic is sweet and hilarious and dark and serious and actually mature and doesn't make the characters seem like high schoolers in 30-40 year-olds' bodies, all at the same time. icarus_chained is also great, if more experimental and erratic. And amanuensis1 has written some frickin' awesome stuff as well, and has good taste in recs.

And honestly, this is a weird thing to say, but the gen fics on the kinkmeme are quite often really good, if somewhat simplistic and concept-driven, and when they aren't, they're usually blatantly schmoopy and superficial enough to be recognized as crap in the summary or first few paragraphs.

ETA: ok wait wait, I have to also add a rec for margo_kim, also on AO3 and LJ. Her fic is mindblowingly amazing, and she only started write a few weeks ago but seems to be putting out a lot of fics quite frequently.

[astridv]

Oh yeah, I like all these writers. I already have icarus_chaind and margo_kin tracked and I liked everything I read of irnan's stories, so last night I went through her stuff and found a few good new ones. The best strategy is probably to track every writer who writes something you liked, and to hunt through their bookmarks. (I wish AO3 would allow sorting people's personal bookmarks by fandom the way ffn does. Because that is how I navigate ffn.)

I'd like to find the gems on the kinkmeme but while I'm not afraid to dive into the ffn dumpster to fish out the hidden jewels, the kinkmemes just stump me. They feel so disorganized and I never know where to start looking.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I know that DUM-E and JARVIS are both important to Iron Man's plot, I do and I love them, DUM-E and his droopiness especially, but after running into so many stories that made them central to Tony and Steve getting together it kinda started to annoy me. Like, you know, some things are cool if used once, twice, but when they turn into a thing they become unbearable. It was similar with the Superfamily trope for me. As for Peter's character development I think him being raised by, well, anyone else than Aunt May and Uncle Ben just doesn't work but I was cool with an idea of such a cracktastic AU, I thought it was funny and that it could have potential if written well. But then Superfamily started to pop up everywhere and now I can't even think about it without grinding my teeth. (Okay, I don't actually grind my anything while thinking about fanfiction I don't like, but you get my drift :)

As for places in which I look for fic - you're right, of course, but I do try to check LJ Communities (cap_ironman, mainly), as well, but most entries lead to AO3 anyway. As for other possibilities, I don't hold FF.net in very high regard (I mean, there is a lot of great fanfiction there, but you always have to dearch through so much crap to get to the good stuff) and at first I did google some other archives but they looked kinda abandoned... Can you give me some good advice on fic searching? I would anonymously love you forever! :D

[intrigueing]

Oh man, I feel you so hard on the overdoing. I've pretty much banned myself from Coulson-fic since August because I was afraid I might start disliking him if I kept seeing him elevated to bizarre levels of importance, and I really do NOT want to start disliking him, 'cause I loooooove him and he rules.

My main source of fanfic is rec lists, tbh. I just search for rec lists on google and glance over them, and if I like the look of the reccer's tastes and proclivities, I'll invest time in reading the fics they recced.

My other suggestion is search by association, not category. By which I mean, instead of looking through archives by certain characters/pairings/fandoms, gather some of your favorite stories, and read everything the authors of those stories wrote. Then gather the authors who have written multiple stories that you liked, and check out the stories in those authors' favorites/bookmarks/rec lists. Also, try and see if you can find out which other authors those authors admire, and check out the stories written by those new authors.

Admittedly, this approach unfortunately raises your likelihood of missing solo gems by nonprolific authors, but in a fandom with as much explosive disorganized fic output as the Avengers, it's the most efficient way to get the maximum amount of goodfic while avoiding badfic as much as possible.