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⌈ Secret Post #2134 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 064 secrets from Secret Submission Post #305.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[diet_poison]

Respectfully, I didn't. You are reading into that there.

[cloud_riven]

Then please don't conflate the two in the same sentence, especially seeing that you admit have no actual experience with one.

[diet_poison]

I didn't conflate them, I just listed them both as examples of bad things that can happen. One is obviously worse than the other - that's just common sense.

You are kind of language policing here.

[cloud_riven]

You mentioned them both as causing damage you couldn't walk away from.

I am. Because words mean things and also lose effect.

[diet_poison]

*re-reads comment*

Actually, no, I didn't say that. They both do more damage than the trouble of tagging a post. I never did anything to imply that they do the same amount of damage.

[(Anonymous)]

Calling being spoiled "damage" whiler mentioning triggers and the fact you don't have any = implying spoilers are as bad as triggers. Jesus fucking Christ, are you this fucking stupid all the time or have you been reading too much Homestuck today?

[diet_poison]

This isn't an argument I feel like having, especially with a condescending asshole. I'm not always up-to-date on the latest PC lingo, so you'll have to forgive me. (Or not.)

I don't agree that I was "conflating" them, mentioning two things at the same time and that they are bad =/= saying they are the same or the same degree of badness, we are not going to agree here so let's quit arguing k?

[(Anonymous)]

I hope you step on a Lego so hard it gets stuck in your foot for the rest of your life you miserable piece of shit.

[diet_poison]

You know, I'll never understand what the point of these kinds of comments are...

I guess they make you feel better? That's good, then. I'm glad you feel better, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

Spoilers don't fucking damage you. Are they annoying? Sure. But calling it "damage" and mentioning it right alongside "trigger" is just plain shitty. And if you can't see why that is, then I don't know what to say except "shut your fucking hole."

[diet_poison]

I mean this is obvious shit though, so I don't see why it's such a big deal like do you think people are going to look at that and go "omg wow obviously spoilers are REALLY BAD and triggers are REALLY NOT THAT BAD???" I mean I kind of thought everyone here knows that that isn't true. One is not like the other. I shouldn't have to micro-engineer my sentences just to make absolutely sure I'm not going to get dogpiled by a couple anons with a huge pointy stick up their asses.

by the way, "the damage has been done" is a figure of speech. jsyk.

[cloud_riven]

"If I see something on my dash that spoils me or (for the sake of argument, as I don't have any triggers) triggers me, I have paid a much greater price..."

That's where your wording confuses me since that's exactly what you implied until you clarified for me. However, I still think you're wrong to borrow something you can't relate to for your aversion to spoilers. If it's effort you're going with, don't subscribe to people who never spoiler tag.

[diet_poison]

I still don't see how that wording implies that I think spoilers = triggers. I think we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

I didn't "borrow" triggers to reinforce a "point" about spoilers. The point is about tags, and I was talking about how in general people on the Internet can be affected by either thing and that's why it's important to use tags.

If it's effort you're going with, don't subscribe to people who never spoiler tag.

I don't, but I don't think there's anything wrong with me complaining about people who don't spoiler tag too because it really is basic courtesy and my whole point is that if I'm spoiled once before I unfollow them, then it is because of their lazy not-tagging. If a person is triggered because they didn't know someone they followed didn't tag for triggers, that is obviously WAY WAY WAY worse. They can then (and I imagine would) unfollow that person, but they can't get back the damage that was done the one time because that person didn't tag. Both are bad. The spoiler thing is relatively minor, but that doesn't mean it isn't a thing.

This whole thing is really convoluted but my original point was: saying "so just unfollow me!!!" isn't a complete argument against "it's rude to not tag" because they will have to be negatively affected by one's lack of tags before the unfollow part happens.

[(Anonymous)]

Then why mention triggers at all if you don't have them? Other than being an appropriating shitbag, of course.

[diet_poison]

Because some people do have them and that is one reason why it is important to tag. >_________> this is not that complicated.

[cloud_riven]

Try reading it without the parentheses then. I'm putting it up to bad sentencing you honestly can't see, but fair enough. I'll agree to disagreeing.

of course anyone can complain about this, just as there's anyone free to complain about people complaining about people complaining and so on and so forth.

Tagging is not important, and nothing to do with courtesy. Warning is. Whether it's through a warning in your header, or a lead in mentioning it before a cut, that's what guarantees someone avoiding a harmful post. Because seriously, this tagging nonsense is only relevant if you use tumblr savior or some other extension entirely dependent on your browser. Even then, with warnings and tags, they are not owed. Awesome if they're there, and definitely polite and thoughtful, but no one is entitled to them.

Not following people who don't tag is obvious. Assuming you followed them, you would know by simply glancing through their blog beforehand how little or often they do so. A surprisingly untagged post with spoilers, or omg a fandom you don't like (which is exactly what the secret is about)? Scroll on. Don't pretend you're priority is watching out for folk who have triggers. (general "you")


Also... Have you, or otakugal, reported this thread yet? I'm wondering why it hasn't been frozen yet.

[diet_poison]

To be fair, I am very new to Tumblr. I was under the basic impression that the way to avoid any kind of undesirable thing was to use Tumblr savior on it, and that people didn't really ever use cuts. But so far the blogs I follow are for the most part very PG...

I do appreciate your point about the original post being about fandom distaste. I'm not really sure why people got so upset that I pointed out there are other reasons it's important to tag, but...ok. Don't really want to have a big fight about it.

(Honestly, at this point I'll probably be called a lot of horrible names because I didn't kowtow to the popular PC opinion but honestly? I try to do my very best to be respectful, non-judgmental, and fair. I'm willing to accept that some people will hate me for accidentally saying something that stepped on toes.)

What exactly is the point of reporting the thread? I'm not personally hugely bothered or offended by it

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, you fucking did. You need a dictionary, you stupid bitch?

[diet_poison]

You got one for me? Free shit is always good.

[(Anonymous)]

I do, but I think you're too retarded to read it.

[diet_poison]

You'd be surprised!

(By the way, I hope you're not the same anon who is language-policing me in another thread)

[(Anonymous)]

Yes you did, you fucking cunt.

[diet_poison]

You really are bad at responding to the comment you meant to, aren't you?

Seriously, "cunt" has gotten old. Pick something else

[(Anonymous)]

Nope, I replied to exactly what I meant. You're just too fucking retarded to look up what you posted a few hours ago.

[diet_poison]

Ah, I see. I hadn't gotten the email for this comment yet so I assumed it was a misfire...

*shrug*