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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-08 05:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2137 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-11-08 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of that I agree with and I don't care if other people are fat or not, but most of the time the doctors really do have a point when they are trying to get the patients to lose weight. They are not trying to shame the patient just for the fun of it, like some of the FA folks are making it seem.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-08 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
few doctors. there are plenty of stories of doctors REFUSING to listen to their own patients, and i am not talking just about people who are like 300 pounds. plus the idea that anyone can lose weight easily if they just try hard enough + keep it off is something that needs to die a swift death.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Plus the idea that anyone can lose weight easily if they just try hard enough + keep it off is something that needs to die a swift death.

Oh my god yes this so much. It's actually almost impossible to lose more than 10-15 pounds and keep it off indefinitely, here's a Cracked article about it that links to a bunch of studies on the subject (http://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/fat-officially-incurable-according-to-science/).

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
No, it really isn't (points to self, mother, several friends etc etc).

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 03:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Part of the word indefinitely would mean that you have to wait until the person dies in order to claim they kept it off indefinitely.

If you actually lost that many people I'm terribly sorry, but since you included yourself on the list and you likely aren't a ghost I'm going to assume they didn't.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
da, don't be a dick. It's obvious someone has lost weight and will keep it off for the rest of their lives if their daily routine--their new lifestyle--keeps the pounds at bay. It's people who exercise/diet to lose weight and then go straight back to their usual habits once they're done losing weight that will gain it all back.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I really wish DW had a like button.

and a +1 button.

seriously.

exercise and diet to lose weight isn't something you do until you're where you want to be and then fuck it and go back to the bad habits that put the weight on in the first place.

it's constant maintenance and adjusting to a new lifestyle of exercise and eating right.

which is why fad diets are so notoriously bad about keeping the weight off. there's no maintenance. just the weight loss/weight gain cycle.

which is dangerous as well.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
That seems really strange to me.... I've seen TONS of cases on /r/loseit on reddit alone. People going from like 350 pounds to 170, and sticking at it for years. I know anecdotal evidence isn't reliable but that article just completely clashes with a significant amount of my friends and people I've seen online.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-10 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Cracked loves to cherry-pick sources. They're unreliable with anything beyond trivia.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-08 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Carrying extra weight does come with heath concerns, yes. But when -- as a friend of mine actually had happen -- you have been overweight most of your life and suddenly develop acute shortness of breath, and you go to the doctor and say, "all of a sudden I'm having periods where I can't breathe and have to sit down before I black out" and he comes back with "lose weight; obviously you're out of shape".... yeah. Not. Helpful. This happens a lot. I have dealt with some doctors who could look at a patient with a broken arm and tell them to lose weight. *eyeroll*

(she did find a doctor that listened and treated her, and that was through FA-friendly listings)

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
God, this. When I was thirteen I told my doctor that my period had never been regular and I felt like I was having PMS symptoms almost all the time. She just told me it was my weight and to eat more vegetables.

Ten years later I move and get a difference doctor and we come to find out I have PCOS. We get my hormones figured out and all that stuff starts to get better- including my weight. I mean, it's still hard to lose weight and it'll probably take years to get to my goal, but at least now diet and exercise actually DO something.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2012-11-09 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
True; but not everything is caused by it.

For example, I have tendonitis which I originally got from over-exerting my tendons by hiking/climbing to castle on top of a rock.

Thin people can get that too, from the same activity. Fortunately I have a doc who's great about that, but currently I'm limping ad I can already see some people looking with a "oooh loookie, she's limping because she's fat" kind of look.

Obviously, some diseases are more frequent in fatter people, but that doesn't mean every ailment you have is related to that.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard accounts of people who have had doctors refuse to listen to their medical complaints and attribute all kinds of unrelated symptoms to their weight, refusing to look into other causes and find the actual source of the problem (which often had zero to do with weight). There's also the issue of bedside manner and treating people with respect; it's one thing to make medical recommendations that someone take steps to improve their health, but treating someone like crap for their weight is unprofessional and cruel.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Who has two thumbs and dealt with this? This anon.

Went to the doctor because my lips would swell up at random intervals after I ate. It was getting annoying so I was hoping they could do an allergy test to figure out what I was eating that was causing it.

The bitch doctor I had's advice? "It's because you're fat, you should lose weight."

...really? Thanks, doc.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-09 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you got a different doctor >_>