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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-14 06:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #2143 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2143 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ariel Winter/Modern Family]


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[Chrono Crusade]


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[Shezow]


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[Desperate Romantics]


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[Rugby union, Brad Barritt / Mouritz Botha]


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[999/Virtue's Last Reward]


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[Fringe]


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[Homestuck]


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[ASoIaF/Jack White]


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[Revenge]


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[Crash Bandicoot]


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[scarlett johansson/ryan reynolds]


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[Marvel Cinematic Universe, Journey Into Mystery 2011]


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[Tokyo Dogs]


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[Fate/stay night]


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[Inazuma Eleven]


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[Avatar: The Last Airbender]


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[Suits]


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[Once Upon a Time]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 043 secrets from Secret Submission Post #306.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
fingalsanteater: (Default)

Re: economic collapse

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2012-11-15 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Wishing apocalyptic scenarios on the world is very childish, stupid and shortsighted. Just because some people are suffering now doesn't mean all people should be suffering later.

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm still not seeing the childish aspect? And all people wouldn't be suffering. And I do not equate economic collapse with "apocalyptic scenarios".

It's actually not stupid or shortsighted either as I've thought this out quite a bit but I see how you could assume that based only on the bit I wrote above, which was actually supposed to come off more tongue in cheek or sarcastic than I guess it did. Oh well!

forgottenjester: (Default)

Re: economic collapse

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-15 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
The childish aspect is you putting yourself before others.

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I see that more as selfish than childish. I guess if you think the two mean the same then I can see what you are saying, but I see them as different terms.
forgottenjester: (Default)

Re: economic collapse

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-11-15 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's childish because of the scale of situation itself. Selfishness could be small scale. Everyone is selfish at some point. Childishness is when that selfishness reflects "The world revolving around you" aspect.

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, interesting pov. I disagree but thank you for clarifying.

What if I were to argue that economic collapse was somehow best for the country and thus I was actually putting the whole before my own needs? Type of war time justification thinking - lots of deaths now lead to better lives for everyone later.

Re: economic collapse

[personal profile] dratinis 2012-11-15 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Please tell me you're just playing devil's advocate and that what you just said isn't something you actually believe in. It just sounds reeeeaally off to me.

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's a line of reasoning I've seen used before, repeatedly in the military. Death today so that our loved ones may live tomorrow, and the like.

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Shouldn't you have military benefits to help with that massive debt?
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: economic collapse

[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-11-15 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
This isn't devil's advocate. This is goalpost moving to make the OP look better.

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
Nothing can make the OP look better at this point.
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: economic collapse

[personal profile] chardmonster 2012-11-15 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
They'll try. Probably by mentioning being suicidal again.

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Another childish aspect could be your attraction to seeing the economic system get torn down completely. Almost like toppling a tower of blocks.

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
Hmm but I think you're assuming a lot about my motivation and reactions. It is interesting how much people assume based on small amounts of data. No real assumption is necessarily wrong, but neither are they right. Fun!

Re: economic collapse

(Anonymous) 2012-11-15 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Well, let's make some more assumptions!

You have a big mountain of debt, right? And a lot of young people in the U.S. (I'm assuming that you're young and living in the U.S.) have gotten their big mountains of debt from school loans. That's completely understandable. I have student loan debt, too. Unfortunately, your mountain is so deep that you've contemplated killing yourself, which is horrible -- no one should ever have to think of suicide in the face of debts, and I'm sure that there are people who would be devastated by your death. I really, truly hope that you aren't considering it anymore.

So, for what did you go to school? You must have had some kind of career in mind, but for some reason (the terrible economy, few job openings, sudden tragic events) you haven't been able to make your way to that career. Things look entirely hopeless. The future holds nothing but debt and toil to ease that debt. And the U.S. economy may still well collapse.

In this case, can we not say that it is a reasonable assumption that a young, desperate person with little hope for the future might feel the irrational desire to see the economy come crashing down, like a tower of blocks, offering the chance to be built anew?