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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-10 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #2169 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, get OVER yourself. I'm a woman, and I have no problem playing as a man. If this tiny little thing makes you flip your shit, I seriously worry about you. Fact of the matter is, most gamers are male, so that's what companies are going to pander to.

Also:

http://www.giantbomb.com/female-protagonists/92-2287/games/
http://www.giantbomb.com/female-protagonists/92-2287/
http://www.mobygames.com/game-group/protagonist-female

There. Great big lists of games with female protagonists.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU. Been meaning to link that list to someone else.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-11 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
40% are female and that number is rising.

I'm not saying I agree with the OP completely but it would be a good idea for developers to diversify their PCs a bit. In the very least, it wouldn't hurt.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
na

But aren't those females mainly casual (as in Facebook games and maybe Sims level casual) gamers? I don't know, I play basically anything and I also have one or two female friends who do the same (and interestingly, none of us really care about the representation of females in gaming), but most of my female acquaintances who play casual stuff wouldn't touch the more ~serious~ games, not because they feel objectified/oppressed/ignored by the gaming world, but because they find video games stupid, too time consuming and confusing.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-11 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Even if they are this kind of thinking can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. You don't make many female heroes because you think there isn't a market but because there aren't many female heroes there are people who abandon or never get into gaming and therefore there isn't a market.

Furthermore, I think that casual gaming can act like a stepping stone for people to get more interested in the entire genre. I base this idea completely upon watching some friends of friends so take it with a grain of salt.

You see, your situation is the complete opposite of mine. Almost every single one of my female friends is a gamer and most of them loathe casual games. The ones who like both are definitely in the minority and I don't know any who are only into casual games.

On top of that, we're excluding the idea that men wouldn't mind or might even prefer playing as a female.

I just don't think it's so cut and dry. Besides, as I said before, what could it hurt? Are we really causing a horrible thing to happen if we up the diversity?

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my GOD! Thank you so much! I've been so wrong to treat the dearth of female characters as if it's a real problem, when there are such legendary gaming classics like Anaza Aku Yatsu making strides for womankind!

These lists are bullshit and I'm sorry you can't understand why they don't help your point.
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[personal profile] ariakas 2012-12-11 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, also all of the Barbie games! I didn't know those had female protagonists! Well, that's it then, everyone pack up and go home - nothing more to see here folks, equality's been achieved now that lots of obscure shovelware features a female lead!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
oh, okay. it doesn't bother you. pack it up and go home, everyone. nothing to see here. crisis averted.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
46% of gamers are female. So maybe the companies should start pandering a little bit more to the minorities and hay, maybe more girls will play games.

But arn't you special, you don't mind playing as a male. good for you.

as a consumer, i'm not spending money on games where i can't play as a female anymore. my choice to make.

[personal profile] dratinis 2012-12-11 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
...except that I don't want to play stuff like Winx Club: Magical Fairy Party.

Not to knock on fairies or anything, but I'm pretty sure that the industry is capable of doing better than that.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
It's not capable of doing better than that.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2012-12-11 08:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I mean, I DO like cute games like that, and all. (Well, I don't know if I'd like that one, but I own a couple games that are strictly dress-up, for instance.) But when they're the bulk of the 'games with female protagonists', that's a problem.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
i bet you also like hanging out with men more than women too, cause women are so ~irrational and cause drama. you sound the type.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2012-12-11 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, you mean there are games out there with girls in them????? A whole bunch of which are either old, sexually exploitative, or licenses to doll brands???? I guess that means sexism is over! You sure showed us, person who is no doubt a teenager who considers herself "one of the guys" and hates all those nasty bitches she goes to high school with with all their makeup and sex!

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
oh wow, I have been enlightened. There are a bunch of subpar games where I can play is female. God forbid I want a fully made immersive FPS adventure or something. Clearly as a female all I want to play is Barbia, a bunch of japanese games Ms Pac-Man

/extreme sarcasm for you.

Big whoop, you're a woman who is okay with it so anyone who doesn't like it can sit down and shut up, m'right? Shut up and don't talk about it? Don't bring attention to it? Here's a barbie game, go sit in the corner with farmville?
Guess what. I have a problem with being forced to play a man ALL THE TIME. A 10 page where the majority a children's games versus thousands upon thousands of games where the man is a default white caucasian male lead because writing a woman is "too hard" (thanks Alex Hutchinson).

fuck
you

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
Or they don't write female characters/different races because they don't want to risk "insulting" the target audience...but they'll happily write those characters in sexist/racist background roles.

Just not as a human being main character.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 10:17 am (UTC)(link)
How exciting, I can play Ripley from Aliens! You're recommending me a game with a character that was designed 25 years ago!

You think between that and Barbie I would have more choices :|

(Anonymous) 2012-12-11 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the games you listed are
a) Aimed at the under 13 year olds
and
b) for consoles that no longer exist.

Seriously the majority there are for the sega, snes and game boy. Did you even look at the lists or did you google the first list of games with female protags without looking?

You sound like one of those women who have decided that anyone who doesn't admire the male form is a bad!woman.

I don't like men. I don't want them, I don't want to be one and while I identify with them on a human level, I don't want to play as them.

Call it the building breaking the camels back. :|
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