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As a gay person, the rise is Ally bashing that I've seen online, makes me want to cry.

Why do people do this? Why? What good would come of hating those who want to help our cause?!

From my understanding.....it's a thing of "we fight our own battles" and if we straight people happen to stand up for someone, we're...somehow demeaning them?

So basically, if, for example, I'm out shopping and some dickwaffle is berating or even threatening someone who happens to be queer/gay/what have you....I'm supposed to walk off? Instead of trying to defend that person? Hell, even if I had no idea the person was gay, I'd still like to try to defend them, but it's somehow...wrong these days.

Or at least, that's what I get from reading posts and comments on ontd_p.

Edited 2012-12-11 01:58 (UTC)

Ugh. I side-eye all of ONTD. That place is just toxic.

if that is what you are getting, you are a fucking idiot. christ.

Then, PLEASE, nonny. Enlighten me. Cause I see nothing wrong with defending someone. Or standing up to some douchcanoe cause he or she or they are being a dick.

B/

I don't know what ontd_p is, so this is just a general comment. But I can understand at least one flavour of frustration with allies - sometimes they don't let you get a word in edgeways.

I'm grateful for everyone who is on my side, and who will speak up against the dickwads. But it's much easier to talk about an issue that doesn't effect you directly. Which means that sometimes allies - with the best intentions in the world - jump into conversations more quickly, more loudly, and sometimes with a side order of not really Getting It.

Suddenly you realise that you're the lezzer at the back who can't make herself heard over all of the straight people theorising about what it's like to be you. And sure, what they're saying is way better than the straight folks theorising about why you shouldn't have rights. But at the end of the day it's still a gigantic bore to hear stuff that's just your life turned into buzz-words and abstractions.

ONTD and all it's subs are are large LJ community. Stay away...stay far far farrrr away.

So it's like mansplaining, basically? But for straight/queer instead of men/women. I've been lucky in that I haven't had that sort of experience with an ally but I can see how it could easily happen. Still, I'd rather have a know-it-all ally than an enemy.

as a gay person, i am fine with it.

if you want to 'help the cause', really and truly, then your little feelings won't get hurt when some 'allies' get called out for the shit they do. or you will be understanding and not take it personally if someone who is queer is mistrusting of str8 folks and their bullshit.

What bullshit? How is standing up to an asshole who is being all kinds of dickish and offensive to different people, in this case, queer people, how is this bullshit?

lol @ you taking this so personally. stop projecting your own experiences or whatever onto what i said, obviously bullshit would not be standing up to someone and helping someone in need.

the casual ignorance and microaggressions i and other queer people face day after day is the bullshit i mean.

otakugal15 has every right to take it personally.

Why are we turning our anger on our allies? Do we have no one left to fight? Is homophobia over?

No it's not, and stomping on allies only makes things worse.

if some str8 supposed ally is going to give up being one just cause bawww some LGBTQ people were mean to me! on the internet! we don't fucking need them. what kind of ally would that be.

People, and people have feelings. People don't like getting stomped on, an they don't like getting shit on for nothing.

You may be surprised by this but straight and LGBDQ people are all part of the human race, we are not a separate species.

As a gay person I am not fine with it, at all.

Spitting in the face, of folks who want to help, is not going to make things any better for us. We are not going to come together, as one people, if we perpetuate an 'us Vs them' attitude.

Love, not hate, never hate.

sorry but it's asshole str8 people who ruined it for themselves :) omg i ~have straight friends~ but i am distrustful in general and especially wary of people who call themselves allies.

That's madness...that's just complete madness.

Guess they aren't your friends, then.

Are you five? Yes, there are some asshole "st8" people, but being queer doesn't mean you can't be a jerk as well. You want to know why some allies are being assholes to you? Look at the way you're treating them first!

Because sometimes, those "allies" whine and bitch moan about how they're ~*such good allies*~ and those damn queers should be ~*thankful*~ for their help.

No, you aren't entitled to thanks, and if you're doing this for the thanks, you're in it for the cred and not to actually fucking help. They're the kind to lump a minority together based on the actions of a few.

That sounds like....

*drum-roll*

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