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...I'm sorry, why is there hate for allies? What did they do? I think this might be the first time I've heard of it.

The argument I've seen is that apparently, Allies want acknowledgement and praise for not being terrible people and supporting us.

Whereas I've never actually seen one say such a thing, I've only seen them get a little ruffled after the whole 'die cis-het scum' trend started.

..and who can blame them for that really. I'd be angry too if I was a good person, and someone told me to die.

It just makes this old gay man, want to cry.

Never go into certain areas of Tumblr, then. 'Toxic' is honestly the best word to describe the attitude some of those people have.

Yeah, that was the other thing I was forgetting. Yes, all of us straight people want to be praised for helping defenseless gays/queer people. Because, we ALL see you as OH SO HELPLESS *gags*

Um, no. How about we just want to help people. Cause it's the right thing to do. But, apparently we can only help ourselves, cause it's some how demeaning otherwise. IDGI.

Tinfoil hat time.

I see it as a ploy by homophobic groups to cause discontent, and infighting within the cause. Anger is one hell of a drug, and by using anger to lash out at anyone, and everyone, no matter who they are, will just alienate us further from becoming equal.

I hope I'm wrong, but sometimes I worry...

Here's the thing, some allies do act like that. Some act like they are the saviors the the LGBT rights movement and are offended by not being treated as such. While hating all allies is wrong I don't think it is good not call out and question problematic behavior from allies.

That's the thing, it's fine to call out any and all bad behavior, by anyone. However it's the joy that some seem to take, in turning on all our allies, that has me worried.

Anger is like a drug, and if left unchecked it can do plenty of unintended damage.

Did I say that? No, I didn't. I know some do. But the universal hate I'm seeing for even those who aren't like that is getting annoying and makes many of us not even try.

it seems like everything we've worked for, is slipping away. The selfish anger of the fringe has bled to the whole, and infecting the movement with bile and hate.

I'm sorry otakugal15, I am. I'm sorry that you are made to feel this way.

Please understand that we are not all like this, not all of us.

I'm all for you being an ally, but at this point I also want you to sit down and shut up. So some douchebag insulted you. Big whoop, it happens to everyone involved in lgbt. Especially the actual lgbt.

Maybe it's the way you phrase yourself and turn it into an issue about you.

Or maybe, you can get the stick out of your ass and not be a jerk when someone helps you. Sorry, but most of us aren't there looking for cookies or ally points. We genuinely want to help others because we hate, regardless of orientation, gender, what the fuck ever, seeing others hurt.

That's something that upsets me. Seeing others hurt.I don't know why, but I've always been that way.

But to be shunned for doing that? Fine, then me and others will just walk by. No matter how shitty things get.

No. Now you lose "ally points." You GIVE UP on helping the people you so hate to see hurt, because somebody was mean to you? Baaawww. Now you've shown your true colors. You're not actually an ally at all.

When we have pushed away the last of those who want to help us, who help protect us, who love us.

Then we will finally know that we can no do this alone, and we will be alone, with our bitterness, and our anger.

We will have become the very thing we fought so hard against, only to have it consume us whole.

I don't want that.

Man, you are obnoxious as fuck. I'm a lesbian, and you know what, we need allies to get shit done. As far as I'm concerned, people who go out of their way to help with the LGBT movement do deserve my praise. Maybe not for just voting for LGBT rights, but seriously. You are such a shit, I can't.

Apparently you missed the sarcasm there. Doesn't surprise me, as most SJWs can't tell sarcasm from something real anyway.

Oh I'll help, but if you're a dick to me about it, I'll slap you in the face. B/

Don't let the door hit you on the way out, you fucking piece of shit.

Right back you!!

Oh fuck off. I'd much rather have her than someone like you on my side.

Wow, that's just horrible.

I love that allies exist, and want to help us overcome oppression. I really do. I don't love so much when every time they stand up for us, they come and tell me about it if I wasn't there. Or even better, write a letter to the newspaper about it. "I met Senator Obama today, and I said to him, 'I have a gay child! When you become President, will you make it so they can get married?'" Thank you for saying that to him, and I know your kid is glad you want them to be able to get married, but there really isn't any need to come tell me about it like you're expecting a belly rub and a Scooby snack.

I've never come across that before. I mean, I get the idea that LGBT community can fight for themselves since we have this mantra upon ourselves of being self-sufficient and strong individuals and being treated like human beings instead of being subclassed as being inferior and what-not, but...

Well, in my personal experience, rarely (if ever) have I come across a straight ally expecting me to treat them as if they're my knight in shining armour. Because they know better than that. And the ones that do are borderline homophobic anyway.

YMMV I've seen many straight people behave like being told that they shouldn't be celebrated for not being a horrible person who is a complete homophobe is the worst thing you could tell them.

I don't think we should hate on them all, for the actions of a few.

This is complete madness! When did it become, 'a thing', to want to push away everyone who is trying to help, and support us.

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