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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-18 06:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #2177 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2177 ⌋

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Re: Episode morals that make you mad?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
But Ten was conflicted -- and he was also frightening. His righteousness not only led him to become something atrocious; it also led him to hate himself.

I think he's a great iteration of the character because he only appears on the surface to be good. Underneath, he's rather sociopathic, and his arc is about him coming to realize that.

Re: Episode morals that make you mad?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

IA with this assessment, but given the style it was portrayed with, that's the sort of arc that doesn't fit the episodic format of the show very well. If it had been concentrated in one season, or half a season, with a very tight arc, it would have been conveyed way better. And if he had actually changed substantially, not just intellectually, by the time he regenerated.

Re: Episode morals that make you mad?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
It came across to me that he was only conflicted when it became really personal. Like, Waters on Mars he was frightening, but then was like "omg I'm a dick-IS THIS WHERE I DIE?! FORGET ABOUT THE HUMANS TELL ME ABOUT ME!" Like it was only a problem if he was effected.

Never once did he compare himself to others. He constantly berated humans and whatever self-realisation he came to was always overshadowed by his martyr-complex and self-righteousness. Even when he realised he was a dick, he never bothered to change himself. I mean, his last line was "I don't want to go".

He was a sociopath though, you're right on the ball there. He was an interesting character: but not a likable one.

It's a shame because when he's doing the silly, fun stuff he's completely charming. Interesting, what you find out about someone when you give them power.

Re: Episode morals that make you mad?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-19 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
This is kinda true. And frustrating, because there were so many opportunities for him to make big realizations and show awesome character growth and be five times as awesome due his realization and growth than he would be if he had been perfect from the beginning...and every single time, it was instead handled in such a self-centered, problematic way.

It was like RTD thought that the viewers wouldn't be able to empathize or care about Ten's problems unless it was all about him and his personal feelings. Argh.