[ SECRET POST #2180 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2180 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[Fraiser]


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[Homestuck]


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[Kili/The Hobbit]


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09. [SPOILERS for the Walking Dead]



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10. [SPOILERS for How I Met Your Mother]



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11. [SPOILERS for Rise of the Guardians]



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12. [WARNING for abuse]



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13. [WARNING for rape, noncon]

[American Horror Story Asylum]


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14. [WARNING for rape]

[MLP: FiM]


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15. [WARNING for rape]

[Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen]


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16. [WARNING for suicide]

[Doctor Who]


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17. [WARNING for rape]



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18. [WARNING for IRL murder/shootings]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #311.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

And what, pray tell, makes you think the anger is NOT directed appropriately? People who identify as bronies deserve what they get for the tacit support they provide to their rapist, sexually harrassing brethren. They've all been assholes at some point. You're being one now.

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone who calls themselves a brony defends rapists? Really? Shut the fuck up, I've been raped myself. And if you say I'm lying to support my point, which I have a feeling you will, you're the lowest of the low.

There's a lot of shit in the brony community. Not denying that at all. There is some anger directed appropriately at the shit. There's also anger directed inappropriately at people just for liking the show and that making them "weird."

[visp]

Liking the show =/= identifying as a Brony. Considering the way the Brony subculture has behaved, anyone who willingly identifies with them deserves the disapproval they receive.

To pull a Godwin, you can be a vegetarian aspiring artist who likes Wagner and not be, or associate with, Hitler.

[diet_poison]

But according to your logic, calling yourself a "vegetarian aspiring artist who likes Wagner" is tacitly associating yourself with Hitler anyway.

[visp]

Not at all. Liking something isn't the same as saying "I'm an X."

[(Anonymous)]

Potentially clarifying analogy:

"FiM fan" is to "brony" as "Star Trek fan" is to "Trekkie".

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Or perhaps even more aptly, as "anime fan" is to "otaku".

[(Anonymous)]

Except Trekkies are only guilty of being generally awkward, overly-enthusiatic nerds. Plus Trekkies are Trekkies because they're huge fans of the show. Bronies are bronies because 'ooh, look at me! I'm a dude who likes a little girls show!'.

[diet_poison]

Except that's what brony generally means. It means, "I like MLP [and I'm male, unless I'm using it in a gender-neutral way]"

[fuchsiascreams]

So the difference is only the difference between liking something and giving yourself a nickname because you like something? I just don't understand the point you're trying to make. Usually I agree with the things you post on here (as far as I can remember), but this doesn't even make sense.

[(Anonymous)]

wow there are not even words to describe how wrong and fucking gross this comment is.

[diet_poison]

lol, okay? I'm not the one who came up with that analogy, I was just running with it.

[(Anonymous)]

how is that any different from the comment that diet_poison even responded to in the first place

[diet_poison]

You realize not all bronies are even really aware of this, right?

How is it supposed to be their responsibility to take the heat for something they didn't even know about? Why should they change the name that makes sense for them?

The only thing in that I really agree with is that more not-asshole bronies should call the assholes out more often (when they do realize they're there). But many of them just aren't involved much in the online fandom, which is why they're not really aware of what's going on. If you saw a person in the street wearing a brony shirt, would you give them shit??

I hate this idea of "tacit support". No. That's like saying anything I don't bother to talk about is A-ok with me. There are too many shitty things in the world and there's not enough time to hear everyone's opinion on everything, so I'm not going to assume someone supports something shitty unless they say so or imply it. That just sows more conflict and divisiveness.

[visp]

How can you be part of Brony fandom and not be aware of how they behave? It's not like they restrict the asshole behavior to some secret, password-protect chatsite.

[diet_poison]

Because there isn't some unified "brony fandom". I mean, there's this whole 4chan etc. subculture, but it does NOT include all people who call themselves "bronies". They can't all telepathically communicate with one another or something.

[visp]

Well, if you can show some sort of Brony-identified fansite that doesn't have any "brony" behavior, I might consider the possibility, but as it stands, if you call yourself a brony you must have been somewhere online that talks about bronies or somewhere bronies post, which would make it pretty hard to ignore their behavior.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a boyfriend who enjoys watching MLP. I casually mentioned that male fans sometimes call themselves bronies.

He as accepted that as a term he likes. He's a brony.

He has no idea about the brony culture or that segment's deplorable behavior.

Yet by your reasoning, he is just like them.

He doesn't even know. He's not really into being online and sharing in that aspect. He just likes to watch the show.

Now he's a rape apologist and had no goddamn clue.

fuck you.

[diet_poison]

if you call yourself a brony you must have been somewhere online that talks about bronies or somewhere bronies post

lol, no

[fuchsiascreams]

That's what I was going to say. I know a lot of people who would consider themselves part of Anon, but it's not like they explicitly know 100% of the time what other Anons are doing, and it isn't their job to take responsibility for what those people are doing.

[logicbutton]

I'm gonna back up diet_poison here. A good friend of mine (a really good-hearted, thoughtful guy with three little kids he dotes on) once called himself a brony and was totally confused when I said something like, "haha, maybe if you were more of a douchebag." He really had no idea. And he's a geeky programmer, definitely internet-savvy.

[visp]

And after you told him about it, did he still choose to call himself a brony?

[logicbutton]

I don't know. I didn't really go into detail explaining myself (I didn't have that many details, really), and it hasn't come up since.

[(Anonymous)]

~I hate this idea of "tacit support". No. That's like saying anything I don't bother to talk about is A-ok with me. There are too many shitty things in the world and there's not enough time to hear everyone's opinion on everything, so I'm not going to assume someone supports something shitty unless they say so or imply it. That just sows more conflict and divisiveness.~

This is going in my 'fucking THIS'-posts file. So many discussions on f!s degenerate into 'If you're x, you automatically agree with y', and it drives me crazy, but you articulated it much better than I would have.

[fuchsiascreams]

a) I kind of resent your use of the word "identify", as if being a brony can be/is a part of someone's identity in the way that someone's sexuality, or gender, or religion, or race, or physical ability can be. I think that word has been massively misused in the same way that trigger warnings have been misused and (which now, instead of meaning "an experience that causes a traumatic memory in someone that has experienced trauma", it just means "anything that can even mildly upset or annoy anybody, regardless of whether or not they suffer from a psychological condition").

b) "Identifying" as a brony means that you like the show. It doesn't mean that you support all the opinions and activities of other people who are bronies. What are they going to do, stop watching/liking the show/participating in fandom because some bronies are total assholes, or rapists? That is completely fucking ridiculous. Like, what, am I going to stop drinking tea because at some point in history, a guy who drank tea also raped and murdered women?