[ SECRET POST #2193 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2193 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[GunnerKrigg Court]


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02.
[The Avengers]


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03.
[French & Saunders]


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04.
[X-Men/Marvel Universe]


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05.
[Tron: Uprising]


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06.
[Kagaku Ninjatai Gatchaman]


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07.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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08.
[The X-Files/Fox Mulder]


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09.
[Homestuck]


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10.
[True Grit]


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11.
[Saya no Uta]


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12.
[The Silmarillion]


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13.
[Homestuck]


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14.
[Supernatural]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 015 secrets from Secret Submission Post #313.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly OP? I agree with you - at least as far as people making him out to be more important than he actually is.

Don't get me wrong, I liked him in all the movies- but it was pretty clear that he was being written to be killed off which means that his *death* was the entire point to him. To me that's being expendable, and there are routes they could have gone that wouldn't have involved him at all.

tl;dr: He was a likeable character, but he was made to be killed off, and he wasn't quite the ALL IMPORTANT character everyone makes him out to be.

[chardmonster]

Why are you doing a tl:dr for a post that is not even long.

It was three lines.

What's wrong with you

[truxillogical]

See, I take issue with that. Not saying he wasn't ALL IMPORTANT (he wasn't. He was a small guy in a big movie, and that's part of the charm). But he wasn't made just to be killed off. That's just factually inaccurate. He was in three other movies before they decided to kill him off. He wasn't made to be particularly important--he was a flavor character, if anything. But he wasn't made to be killed off.

[dazzledfirestar]

You do realize this character grew out of what was essentially "SHIELD Agent #3" in the original Iron Man movie, right? He wasn't created from the first as the eventual martyr and linchpin to bring the team together. That came out of several movies and several writers wanting to use to character and expand on him. Three movies and two shorts brought this all about.

He was our first glimpse at an organization that plays a pretty essential role in the universe. He was the first tie between Tony Stark and SHIELD. First on the scene in Thor. Key in keeping Abomination off the team (that would be in the Consultant for those who have no idea what I'm talking about). In fact (ironically) Captain America is the only film he doesn't actually have ties to.

So no, it's not out of line to say he's important to the universe and in forming the team.

[truxillogical]

Y'know, that whole organic growth from "SHIELD Agent #3" is probably a huge part of the fandom around him. I mean, aside from the cool things he does, just the fact that he grew out of a bit part. Comic books have a long-standing tradition of "random throw-away character comes back, and comes back again, and eventually develops into something Iconic."

Heck, that's how we got the Joker. (And, well, most of Batman's Rogues Gallery.)

[dazzledfirestar]

That's exactly it. Between that and the Golden Rule (Nobody stays dead except Uncle Ben and Bucky... and hell, that's not even true anymore), this isn't really that surprising.