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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-01-26 03:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #2216 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2216 ⌋

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ninety6tears: jim w/ red bground (hg)

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2013-01-26 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I love you, OP. I honestly couldn't see anything Merida did as selfish because the reasons for her supposedly having to marry were not presented solidly enough (and I guess if they had been it would have felt like a darker film and not very Disney?) I get that it's about the fact that she's unnecessarily bratty to her mom but I unfortunately can't come to a story like that without the adult knowledge of sex and a "I would be trying to claw the eyes out of somebody who tried to force me into marriage" mentality, so who gives a fuck if she has a tantrum and lobs more of it at her mother, the parent who should be the more understanding one because she's a woman. After growing up with characters like Jasmine who may have actually shaped my ideas of being entitled to choose, the tone of it in this movie was kind of a slap in the face and I feel like this is such an unpopular over-serious reaction to the story but I can't help it.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
because the reasons for her supposedly having to marry were not presented solidly enough

What? Her mom explicitly says something like there will be sword and flame if she doesn't get married. That what's keeping the peace between the nations is this promise that Merida will marry one of their kids. She knows very well that she needs to do this to prevent war. But I guess it's okay a lot of people might get murdered, because she doesn't want to get married.
ninety6tears: jim w/ red bground (Default)

[personal profile] ninety6tears 2013-01-27 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
But at the end these people turn out to be capable of listening to reason and being nice guys after a lovely lecture about brotherhood and blah blah blah, not to mention they all seemed to hold a lot of respect for the queen's say in the matter and she made no attempt to speak up for her daughter's wishes even after she won her own hand fair and fucking square. You are literally implying that if two or more people decide to fight and kill each other because they were promised an unwilling wife and didn't get it, that that's the potential wife's fault. Congratulations on having that attitude.
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(Anonymous) 2013-01-27 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
It is kind of her fault. This is a fundamental deal for their government--presumably to insure that the king cannot gain too much power over all of the other clans. It's part of the law and customs. The king backing out and breaking these things is a big deal. This isn't just "getting the unwilling wife", this is succession and the future of their kingdom.

(Anonymous) 2013-01-27 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I promised my neighbor that I would give them a black slave. The black slave ran away, and now my neighbor wants to kill me. It's totally the black slave's fault.