[ SECRET POST #2219 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2219 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Oofuri]


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03.
[Adventure Time]


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04.
[How I Met Your Mother]


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05.
[Gangnam Style/PSY]


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06.
[Arthur Conan Doyle]


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07.
[Sherlock]


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08.
[Richard Armitage]


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09.
[Bioshock 1&2, Heavy Rain, Silent Hill 1&3, Alias, Taken 1&2, Once Upon A Time]


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10.
[Lizzie Bennet Diaries]


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11.
[Steam Powered Giraffe]


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12.
[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


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13.
[Ghost World/Safety Not Guaranteed]


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14.
[Patalliro]


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15.
[Bones]


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16.
[Hetalia]


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17.
[Dynasty Warriors]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 060 secrets from Secret Submission Post #317.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[philstar22]

I agree. I don't get this ship. I don't care what people ship, but I don't understand it. Part of it for me is that Giles is a lot like my dad, and some of the fandom fantasies I made up in my head involved me either being Giles' child or being adopted by him. So I can't see him in a romantic sense at all (though Giles/Jenny was adorable, though I refuse to find out if smut exists for it).

Edit: The only thing that bugs me about the ship is the idea that he can't possibly see her as a daughter because a parent would never ever be willing to let their child go into dangerous situations. I read that in an essay someone wrote about why they shipped once, and it really bugged me.

[silverr]

"he can't possibly see her as a daughter because a parent would never ever be willing to let their child go into dangerous situations."

Yeah, I don't buy that logic either. iirc Quentin Travers called Giles out on having "a father's love" for Buffy (in "Helpless," I think? the cruciamentum ep), and Giles' own conflict in OMwF was that he knew that his protectiveness was holding her back. ~ Part of being a parent is sometimes girrting your teeth and letting your kids do dangerous stuff, because how else will they ever develop independence and self-confidence?

(Also, I just can't see it because I ship Buffy and Spike.)

[philstar22]

Exactly. And the whole thing came across as really judgmental of differing parenting styles with a hint of ick because not every parent is going to be in a situation where they even can keep their child away from everything.

[philstar22]

(Shipping one thing hasn't stopped me from shipping other things in this fandom. I'm one of the few people who ships Buffy with both Spike and Angel).

[silverr]

Heh, kudos then, for bridging what always seemed to be the Bangel vs. Spuffy divide.

I'm with OP on the Giles/Buffy thing though - I'm not squicked by Giles/Buffy (I admit I can see where people might get it from), but I personally find it more interesting as a deep non-sexual parental affection.

(Plus, Giles/Joyce was so delicious.)

[philstar22]

Oh, I completely agree on Buffy/Giles. I don't care that I ship her with other people, but it is too parental for me to see it as romantic, and Giles is too much like my father for their not to be a squick factor.

[(Anonymous)]

And that's a real healthy relationship in comparison. Yeahhhh no.

[silverr]

*grins* Point taken, if you're excluding S7.

[(Anonymous)]

That argument about a parent's role is especially strange considering Buffy's relationship with her own mother. I mean, her mother found out about her being a slayer, and although she didn't like it, she didn't really try to stop her, did she?

Because there's that thing about Buffy... she's the slayer. She didn't get a choice, but they've shown on a couple of occasions that she can't just stop. It's not like sending a helpless girl into a fight, she has the tools to do the job (super strength, senses, reflexes, etc). Of course, Buffy's mom and Giles both would probably prefer she didn't have to do it because of their personal relationship with her, but both of them accept her as the slayer and "let" her go into dangerous situations. (Also, lol, like anyone could stop Buffy from doing what she wanted. "Let" indeed.)

Honestly, I don't see it any differently from the millions of real-life parents whose children serve in the military, or the police force, or become firefighters, or join the Peace Corps... loving your child and being concerned for their safety doesn't prevent them from recognizing that their child is doing something important to help others, and have been trained and equipped to do it as safely as possible. Most of them are probably proud of the field their kid has chosen.