[ SECRET POST #2220 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2220 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Sherlock, The Hobbit, Doctor Who]


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[Hotel Transylvania]


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[Skyfall]


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[Love Actually]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Small Wonder]


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[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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[Downton Abbey]


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[Magi]


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[Homestuck]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 042 secrets from Secret Submission Post #317.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well true, but I think it's funny how people criticize Twilight for doing the exact same thing.

[intrigueing]

"The exact same thing" as what?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm...really not seeing the parallel here. Care to elaborate?

[(Anonymous)]

Whenever Bella gets hurt/threatened, Edward gets upset and Bella thinks that seeing Edward worry about her is worth the danger/injury. And everyone (rightfully) thinks this is creepy and and unhealthy. But they all seem to think Bella is a lunatic who is actually glad for the danger/injury itself, not just glad of Edward's reaction.

But apparently when Watson thinks getting injured is worth it to see Holmes get upset, then obviously he's not crazy, he's only glad of the reaction, not the getting hurt.

It's the same situation, both fucked up, but people view them differently for some reason.

[(Anonymous)]

but isn't Bella often deliberately putting herself in harms way just so she can get a reaction from him?

[(Anonymous)]

Only in New Moon does she deliberately fuck herself up in order to see her Edward!adrenaline-hallucination. Otherwise she's just a danger magnet/clumsy-ass person.

[(Anonymous)]

This.

The jumping off a cliff stuff in New Moon was definitely screwed up, but that seemed to be out of depression rather than an attempt to elicit a reaction from him (as she didn't think he'd ever find out.)

[fuchsiascreams]

No, I mean.. there were times when she literally would do dangerous things so that she could force Edward to come and save her, and when she didn't and started hallucinating him telling her not to do dangerous things, she did them to get that hallucination instead. It wasn't "OMG I'M SO SAD BRB JUMPING OFF A CLIFF OUT OF DEPRESSION!". It was "I'M GOING TO PUT MYSELF IN HARM'S WAY SO THAT EDWARD COMES AND GIVES ME ATTENTION!".

[(Anonymous)]

In other words: "I'm too dumb to understand language!"

[tweedisgood]

No, that's not what they critcise it for. At all.

[(Anonymous)]

Literally the only criticism I have ever seen for Twilight (apart from the bad writing) is that Edward and Bella's relationship is overly obsessive. What do you think people criticise Twilight for?

[tweedisgood]

Not "overly obesessive" - abusive. Because it is.

My point was that they do not criticise something that is "the exact same thing" as Holmes/Watson. There is no comparison with Holmes and Watson to be made and people who think there is are wholly missing several crucial issues and wilfully misrepresenting others in an effort to defend the indefensible.

Those of us who tackle the Holmes and Watson canon relationship in my experience nearly always do so with a recognition that Holmes is not an idealised love/friendship object - and the love/friendship Watson has for him is complex. But he is not an Edward Cullen, and anyone who thinks so is simply ignorant.

[(Anonymous)]

Well at least you understand that.

Again, my point was directed at the SOME people who DO think it is idealised.

Of course he's not as bad as Edward Cullen. He's not a 100 year vampire stalker. But he is often a jerk to Watson. And while Watson is obviously nowhere near the doormat that is Bella Swan, he is still remarkably permissive of some of Holmes' douchey behaviour.