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Nope, but they invented the kind of guilt trip over it that the OP's trying to pull.

There's a difference between sex-as-plot-point vs sex-for-no-reason-except-to-make-the-character-seem-liberated. Pretty sure the latter is what OP is complaining about.

What guilt trip? I didn't read anything like that in the secret. And I'm sure that plenty of other religions have managed to feel the same way without any input from Catholics.

I have a hard time respecting characters when they make dumb decision after dumb decision regarding who has access to their genitals.

It's kind of stated right there. People who have lots of sex should not be respected because having lots of sex is a dumb decision.

I read that part more as 'they repeatedly sleep with idiots/could choose their company better' not as 'having sex at all is a dumb decision'.

Reading comprehension fail. Also defensiveness ahoy.

No, not what it says. Read it again without already having decided what it says in advance.

Whether or not having lots of sex is a dumb decision depends on who you're choosing to have all that sex with. Sounds to me like the OP would just prefer to see characters who exhibit some taste and discretion in their choice of partners, and there's nothing wrong with that.

Oh, apparently that is slut-shaming, according to a bunch of folk downthread, because of...reasons.

Yeah, I got nothing.

"It's a bad decision because I don't approve of who you choose to have sex with" is still slut-shaming, sorry.

No it isn't, sorry.

Yes, it is.

NUH UH YEAH HUH
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"It's a bad decision because it was written superfluously/doesn't fit with the character's personality/is a clear example of someone getting the to hold the idiot ball just for plot's sake" isn't slut-shaming.

That's not what the secret said, though.

It's what YOU don't want it to say, for some reason.

Except there is a whole load of different bad decisions that someone can hate without it being slutshaming.

If a character on a show is making the dumbass mistake of not using proper protection just so the writers can write a pregnancy scare into the plot hating that is not slut-shaming. Especially if it is ooc for the character to do so.

If writers are basically using a character's 'liberated sex morals' as a cheap way to get a load of tits and ass shots on tv, you can absolutely hate that behaviour without being it being slut shaming.

characters on tv =/= real people. We can question their actions to a different degree because they are not making them themselves. It is something that is being made by a team of writers and their biases can damn well carry into stuff. It's like... Any woman should be allowed to wear what she wants in real life to a reasonable extend (like safety, general norms etc) But just because any woman should be able to do so in real life doesn't mean we can't question character costumes when it is obvious that the women in the show are only dressing like that cause a team of creative male editors wanted to see boobs.

"Any woman should be allowed to wear what she wants in real life to a reasonable extend (like safety, general norms etc)"

Not even general norms. Safety and not exposing yourself to nonconsenting people are literally the only things that matter. As long as you observe those, wear whatever you want.

Well, there's also any dress policies at work. Probably shouldn't wear torn jeans if the dress code is "business casual"

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Lol no. Your sister's husband, your abusive ex, the previous one-night-stand that you're pretty sure stole some of your jewelry on the way out, your boss, your direct subordinate, your teenage student... the list is endless.

Not all of those are bad. Is the person consenting? Is there no cheating involved? Congrats, you can have sex with them!

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I immediately thought of Ally McBeal and her stupid, stupid miniskirts in the court room. The judge even called her on it one time and her rationalization for wearing this highly inappropriate clothing was that she had "nice legs" and wanted to show them off. Dude, fine. Run around naked if you want--outside your job. You aren't standing there in front of a judge to show off your goddamned legs, you're there to represent a client. Get a clue, dress appropriately, and when you're in the goddamned court room, concentrate on your job!!!

Okay, that bitch of mine isn't about who has access to her genitals, true; but boy, was that ever a dumb (and unbelievable) decision. Her boss honestly wouldn't have talked to her about it? I don't know if you guys remember the show or not, but those skirts were short. And completely inappropriate. So much so that they still annoy me, 20 years later, when I think about it. XD I need to get a life...

Somehow I doubt it.

Oh, please. It's not a guilt thing. It's more of a, "Oh, for Criminey's sake. This plot again? The last three shows with a female lead had that same damn plot. Be more original." In other words, boring, bad writing.

This.