[ SECRET POST #2237 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2237 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Ridiculous question for linguists/ language-likers

[khronos_keeper]

I think it's just a cognitive hangup. I'd get over it quickly if I were to start learning a language with varying accusative forms. It's like learning to read from right to left when I started with Arabic, or learning to attach possessives at the end of nouns rather than at the beginning.

English is a tricky bitch, and I'm pretty sympathetic to anyone trying to remember our very wide history of verb collection. Latin based verbs are usually regular. Old English based words are often irregular.

I actually have been meaning to learn Russian, so I'm really thankful this thread brought it up. Sort of prepares me for some of the more unusual pitfalls my mind will have to get over.

Funny, that bit with Estonian sounds more like how they handle prepositions rather than cases. Hm.

Re: Ridiculous question for linguists/ language-likers

[dreemyweird]

I actually think that the worst part of English is conditionals. All the would/would've been/was stuff. Verbs aren't that hard, especially considering the fact that even the irregular ones have some change patterns (learn-learnt, keep-kept, creep-crept etc.)

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Good luck) Russian has a lot of exceptions and strange structure, that's why it may be hard. For example, nouns change differently according to which group they are in (there are three groups).
Also the syntax is very flexible, and one sentence can have five or ten legitimate variations.
You can say "Why are you here?" or you can say "You are here why?" or "You why are here?", all of them are correct. It's a bit like Yoda's speech.
Good news, though, is that there are only six noun forms and three tenses.
Stresses are completely random... there's simply no rule for those.

As to Estonian, you hit home here: nina taga cases evolved from the "preposition+noun" constructions. In fact, some of them are still used with prepositions, which is rather silly, because when one says "ilma piimata", it essentially means "without without milk".