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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I love Derpy but kinda wish people would stop complaining about her, it's been too long... what happened happened.

It's annoying seeing the fans whining about this all the time, it's time to get over it.

[insanenoodlyguy]

She was ours. We helped create her (and destroy her, but not the same people)so her loss is keenly felt.

[(Anonymous)]

Grats, an ableist slur and punchline pony gag was "yours". You guys must be so proud.

TLDR: I hate Bronies

[(Anonymous)]

Go away

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, there are some people who weren't too bothered by her being changed. and the show creator was originally going to call her Ditzy Doo.

How is her name being Ditzy any worse than Derpy? Derpy +Hooves conveys "clumsy". Ditzy conveys "stupid"

I would have preferred they play up the clumsy and aware of it angle rather than the clumsy and completely ignorant factor ("I just don't know what went wrong")I'll be the first to say that some of those lines looking back weren't great.

I would have had her appearance being more "..Oops...eheh...sorry. Hey can I hel-oh! Sorry" (basically like they did with Tonks in the Harry Potter books, but combined with a little bit of Luna Loovegood style quirkiness.)

[diet_poison]

I personally think Ditzy is more offensive.

[(Anonymous)]

If you don't mind me asking: why? English is my second language and I've only heard it as a synonym for "scattered-brained". I've used it about myself. Should I stop that?

[diet_poison]

I think this one really varies from person to person. I've always seen "ditz" used derisively towards girls who were perceived as being shallow, dumb, and airheaded. otoh, I didn't even hear/see the word "derp" until a few years ago and from what I saw of it I thought it was just a random word, sometimes used to describe something dumb that someone does (as in, the everyday mistakes we all make that can be seen as funny in hindsight, or a brain fart, or something)

I think peoples' experiences and perceptions with those two words vary a whole lot.

[greenvelvetcake]

Ha, no. You're an idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

No one knew that was a slur before the SJW were so active in spreading that it was. The rise in derps being called derps and being associated with a derp character is 100% on the SJW. 'Grats guys, way to spread the hate.

Oh and Derpy might have been a goofy klutz, but she was no derp. Unlike you.

[(Anonymous)]

Ha, you got me! I thought you were serious at first, but then I realized you claiming a word wasn't a slur before using it as one was on purpose! Nice trolling.

[(Anonymous)]

she was an animation error that you (general you) turned into a joke about the mentally disabled (And please don't pretend like that is not the reason she took off, regardless of if there was positive done with it) that somehow managed to spiral completely out of control

I guess I just don't understand why you were so attached. Even if you genuinely felt she was somehow "yours" as a community, it's still... a really, really pointless joke that went on too long that was based on an animation error. On a nameless, space-filling extra. Why was that so important?

[(Anonymous)]

Wellllllllllll, she's Ditzy Doo. Derpy was her fan-name. Lauren Faust always had an idea for a BG pegasus pony that would be very clumsy.

[(Anonymous)]

That in no way addresses what I was saying. I'm aware of the Ditzy Doo name and that Lauren later said that she could be that pony. She took off before Lauren said that though, so I don't really see that as an answer to why people were so attached to this.

My question still stands. Why was a joke about an animation error that important to this fandom?

[(Anonymous)]

Why is anything important to any fandom? All fandom revolves around things that are not real. It doesn't matter whether something is an "error" or not; all that matters is that it's always completely and utterly imaginary.

Why is it okay to become attached to something make-believe that someone invented on purpose but it's not okay to become attached to something make-believe that someone invented on accident? Either way, the person is still emotionally invested in a non-entity.

[skepty]

I'm not in that fandom, so I can't say for sure, buttttttt...I think there's a certain charm to one-shot characters, or 'blank slate' characters. People don't get attached to the characters solely on their canonical run, but on the fanon that is created around them. Plus, I think her design is nice. Yellow and Gray pop for me, color wise

[(Anonymous)]

stares in confusion at the carebears gif

[(Anonymous)]

I think its because she (Derpy/Ditzy) isnt supposed to exist. Just like how Bronies 'shouldnt' exist either. It's the irony.

[(Anonymous)]

Um lazy eyes =/= mentally disabled. There a like a dozen different characterizations of her and many of the ones I've seen characterize her as a quirky pony sometimes even with a daughter , who may have an eye problem or a speech impediment but still competent. My personal favorite has her very competent but with a speech problem-and a character who keeps going on with determination and strength in spite of her problem.

I'm not fond of the way she was brought in and the lines she was given. and she's not a joke as much as a characterization. I personally agree with Noodly here that maybe it was a poor decision to call attention to her.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, I'm well aware of the various levels of characterization to Derpy. That all came after her initially taking off because lazy eyes are hilarious, but sure, okay. Let's ignore that part of the argument altogether because it frankly is the least important part to me.

Why was an animation error that important to your fandom that it caused such a meltdown?

That is my entire question. Can you please explain?

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Well I dunno personally I just saw that it made her stand out a little. *shrug* Maybe some people saw it as funny but others saw it as unique, something different.


I think the angry responses were unnecessary and harmful, sort of like "callouts" that are little more than "SHITFUCKING SCUM SLIT YOUR WRISTS AND DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT" . There was no need to attack people who thought differently but a few people were bothered that she was erased from the show. Personally I would have been cool with just a voice change and maybe changing the lines she spoke.

I honestly wish people hadn't erupted so much but internet seems to bring out the worst in people. When people will get slightly upset over things in real life they seem to rage over things in fandom.

(me, I could have just kept on characterizing her as I always did, a clumsy and quirky, but dedicated mail-pony.) I hope that somewhat answers your question.

[(Anonymous)]

I suppose it never occurred to you that a real person with a real lazy eye might identify with a character that has a lazy eye.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey um you've been coming off rather angry , and honestly you come across as if you're looking for something negative with your "well it doesn't matter if anything positive was made of the character she was just intended to be laughed at an it's wrong."

Some of us like her not because we think she's hilarious or pathetic , but we actually like a character that has something unique about them. While I love the mane 6 their personalities are all based on common "types" of female characters. The smart girl, the brash tomboy, the hyper Genki girl, the shy girl, the drama queen /fashionista, and the country girl. But Derpy is something entirely unique. She's can be any mix of two main pony's personality types, or she she can be something the author thinks up. A dedicated but forgetful/clumsy girl or a quirky girl with her head in the clouds.

That's why the fandom likes her. Some people can identify with her lazy eyes and the feeling of dealing with being different and they can write her with those experiences in mind. Then , some people with experiences and personality unlike that of the main characters can. They can have a character they identify with.

I don't see how that's wrong at all. I do agree that they should have kept her in the sidelines and I don't agree with how her removal was dealt with but still, you seem to be very angry that people like this character.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow I forgot how entitled you fans are

No, she's not 'yours'. She's Hasbro's and part of a show for kids, so she 'belongs' way more to the children than she does to you. The fact you guys/girls took an interpretation of her and ran with it does not make her the 'fandoms' anymore than any other fandom going nuts over a minor character.

[(Anonymous)]

But once it's out there it's co-opted for everyone!