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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-02-24 03:21 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Derpy but kinda wish people would stop complaining about her, it's been too long... what happened happened.

It's annoying seeing the fans whining about this all the time, it's time to get over it.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-24 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
She was ours. We helped create her (and destroy her, but not the same people)so her loss is keenly felt.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Grats, an ableist slur and punchline pony gag was "yours". You guys must be so proud.

TLDR: I hate Bronies

(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Go away

(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, there are some people who weren't too bothered by her being changed. and the show creator was originally going to call her Ditzy Doo.

How is her name being Ditzy any worse than Derpy? Derpy +Hooves conveys "clumsy". Ditzy conveys "stupid"

I would have preferred they play up the clumsy and aware of it angle rather than the clumsy and completely ignorant factor ("I just don't know what went wrong")I'll be the first to say that some of those lines looking back weren't great.

I would have had her appearance being more "..Oops...eheh...sorry. Hey can I hel-oh! Sorry" (basically like they did with Tonks in the Harry Potter books, but combined with a little bit of Luna Loovegood style quirkiness.)

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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-02-24 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha, no. You're an idiot.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
she was an animation error that you (general you) turned into a joke about the mentally disabled (And please don't pretend like that is not the reason she took off, regardless of if there was positive done with it) that somehow managed to spiral completely out of control

I guess I just don't understand why you were so attached. Even if you genuinely felt she was somehow "yours" as a community, it's still... a really, really pointless joke that went on too long that was based on an animation error. On a nameless, space-filling extra. Why was that so important?

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-25 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Wow I forgot how entitled you fans are

No, she's not 'yours'. She's Hasbro's and part of a show for kids, so she 'belongs' way more to the children than she does to you. The fact you guys/girls took an interpretation of her and ran with it does not make her the 'fandoms' anymore than any other fandom going nuts over a minor character.

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[personal profile] thezmage 2013-02-24 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
After she showed up in canon in a very unsubtle "laugh at the person with Down syndrome" scene, anybody complaining about her getting removed from the episode or future episodes goes into my "do not want to associate with" folder
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2013-02-24 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
How exactly did this character become a fandom representative of POSITIVE portrayals of people with intellectual disabilities? Sure, there are some great fics starring her, but the show itself has only used her as a punchline. I find it bizarre that fans seem to think removing her from the show would be contrary to positive representation of the intellectually disabled.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-02-24 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Erasure. Though I'm first to say she never should have had a speaking role in the first place.
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(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I imagine because the fandom wants her to be one, when she really isn't. From what I remember, Derpy was so big because fandom made her such, so she couldn't possibly be a negative portrayal, right? (Well at least in most of fandom's eyes.)

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think some people said that it would be like pretending people with disabilities didn't exist. I thought the voice was ...not good (apparently her VA thought she was a boy) and I felt that really they could have introduced her in a better way it would have come off better. Even if she had been introduced as mailmare who was just slightly ditzy and loved muffins because...honestly that seems a lot like what they do with Pinkie Pie almost all of the time. *shrug*

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Her VA thought she was voicing a boy and based it off of a child neighbor she has. I..guess the kid could have been mentally disabled in some way? It does really sound like a stereotypical handicapped voice, though, so who knows?

(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
What about people the complain that she was removed due to the actions of idiot fandom members, but understand why she had to be pulled?

THIS

(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
^yeah this.

[personal profile] thezmage 2013-02-24 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally, "understand why she had to be pulled" is all I ask

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-25 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
http://fuck--no--my--little--pony.tumblr.com/image/43924933098
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People even compare her "removal" from the show to Nazism.

>Fandom names wall-eyed error pony "Derpy" and give her a "hurr durr" personality
>Hasbro makes it official
>Derpygate happens
>Fandom pretends they just wanted representation of "disabled" people

I laugh my ass off at such hypocrisy.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-25 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Nazi-sim? Man that's the kind of primo trolling I wish I could have dreamt up.
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[personal profile] sockpants 2013-02-25 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
If I remember correctly, it wasn't intended to be a joke at the expense of people with Down syndrome. The voice actress thought she was voicing a little boy pony and modeled the voice on a kid she knew from her neighborhood. Nobody caught the error until airtime.

Things got blown out of proportion on both sides. No, taking Derpy out didn't ruin the show, but it also wasn't meant to be an attack on disabled people.

[personal profile] thezmage 2013-02-25 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Intentional or not, that's what she was. Whatever the inspiration for the voice, the end result was unmistakably Down syndrome.

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(Anonymous) 2013-02-24 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm exactly like you, OP.

I thought it was nice of the animation artists to put her into the background once in a while. It was a bit like "Where is Waldo?" and I didn't care much.
But then all this drama started and I started to hate her rabid fans and everything that had to do with her. Seeing this pony replacing Rarity or Applejack in (Hot Topic) merchandise just makes me angry. She's not more important than the Mane Six, stop using her like she was a protagonist!

(Anonymous) 2013-02-25 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
After all the dramas that have gone over lately, I have stopped caring about the drama. I'm just going to enjoy the heartwarming that is Equestria's Best Mother, regardless of whether or not there's evidence contrary to that relationship being in the show, and enjoyably freak out when she makes five cameos in the last episode.

(Anonymous) 2013-02-26 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
The ones you barely see even when you look for them? Yeah, whoop-de-fucking-do. Such a victory. :|

(Yeah I'm bitter. The other bronies made me think she actually returned.)