[ SECRET POST #243 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #243 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[despedia]

28. Not just in fandom, but on the net generally I tend to see a lot of girls being OMG LESBIAN or Bi, without actually having ever made out with a girl, except maybe a kiss with their equally OMG LESBIAN best friend.
It's just a fashion, and I think it's insulting towards those who really are gay

[avianthropy.livejournal.com]

So I guess straight people shouldn't claim to be straight unless they've kissed someone of the opposite sex and liked it, either?

[norrowa.livejournal.com]

Dude, seriously -_- I've never even done so much as kissed a girl. Does this mean I have to hand in my lesbian card now?

Besides, by that logic, it would be insulting to straight people for these folks to claim that they're straight if they're really gay/bi. omg. someone think of the straights.

YEAH, I'M RLY RLY INSULTED BY YOU CLAIMING TO BE BI DESPITE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE NEVER KISSED A GIRL OMG /angry lesbian rant ohwait I can't really be a lesbian... DAMMIT NOW I'M CONFUSED.

[avianthropy.livejournal.com]

Yes, yes it does. Everyone who's never kissed anyone, or any of the right people for them, needs to turn in their gay/bi/straight card right away. Asexuality just became the new world norm!

Really, this whole idea that you have to do something physical with a member of the same sex to prove to yourself that you like them... heteronormative much? What is it that's "insulting to gays," again?

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. And what about those of us who kissed people of the opposite gender -- or even had heterosexual sex -- before we realized we were gay/lesbian? I still haven't so much as kissed a woman, but I can sure as hell tell you that men do nothing for me. I guess that makes me asexual until such time as I prove my lesbianism, huh?

[despedia]

No, sorry, it wasn't what I meant. To you too, please do read the comment I did in reply to the first one.
I repeat I find it insulting, and again, it's because it makes gay people lose a ton of credibility. It certianly is not because of the kiss thing, it's because most of those people really aren't gay at all, they really just want to get the spotlight.
Most of them are drama queens, emo, suddendly dark etc etc, not to mention the fact that until the day before all of their friends became suddendly gay, they were perfectly stright.

Oh, and I don't talk of sterothypes, really. It's in italian, but I can link you at least 10 blogs of people like that (then you can just watch their friends pages since it's basically the same thing), and if I talk like this, it's because I've seen such things happen.
Please do read my first comment (and this one, of course), and let me know if you didn't get something, if I explained myself badly or your opinion in general (I do value it)!

[dorknessrising.livejournal.com]

I'll throw in a WORD there. I knew I was Not Straight by the time I was 12, even though I was a complete virgin until two weeks ago. [/TMI]

[despedia]

again, please do read the comment I did replying to the user before.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone or you in particular, I didn't mean that.
It's just as you said, by the way. You knew since you was 12. It's not like you suddendly realized when there casually was a tendency amongst all of your goth-emo-dark friends to be omglesbian.
Please do let me know your opinion/if I wasn't clear in what I meant, so I can explain it better!

[despedia]

I didn't mean that, I'm sorry if I offended you. I replied to the comment before, if you want please do read it.
But honestly, I do think it's offending, because it really is not a matter of sexuality, but it's just a matter of wanting to be popular/alternative at all cost (which actually is the very same thing). I've explained the exact situation in my comment, if I was not clear (possible) please to let me know what you didn't get/your opinions, so I can explain myself better.

[despedia]

That was not what I mean, I'm sorry it was what people got, I really didn't mean to be offensive.
Though in a certian way it might be like that as well, after all, I think sexuality is really difficult to grasp.
Anyway, what I mean is that, it's like full everywhere of dark-emo-goth pretendtobe lesbian in the whole net, and most of the time they go around saying "lol I'm like, ultrasuperlesbian, I did this and this and then this and that with 34343 girls" and then in like, 40 entry before you see how she talked about her and her boyfriend, and after talking with a circle of her friends you get to know either that all of her friends are like her, or that she's saying a tons of lies and she at most kissed her best friend.
I really do think that such a thing is really offensive, because it's making people who seriously are gay losing credibility, 'cause, honestly, whenever I see a dark-emo-goth-punk-whatever girl that say "you know, I'm lesbian" the first thing I get to think is "yes of course, who isn't these days?". It's not even a matter of numbers ('cause honestly, it's not like it would be impossible that in a given place where there are 30 people, 25 are gay, if you get what I mean), it's a matter of how these people act.
The OMG LESBIAN trend, here in italy, started from when TATU became popoular, and at the time most of the suddendly lesbian girls were casually their fans. I don't know if I was clear with what I meant, but if not please let me know and I'll try to explain it with different words