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[Otoyomegatari]

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[Girls und Panzer]

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[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic]

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[Monster High]

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[My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic]

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[Jackass 3D]

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[Paranatural]

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[Angelina Jolie]

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[Der Ring des Nibelungen]

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[Mary Shelley's Frankenhole]

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[Medium]

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[The Americans]

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[The Mindy Project]

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[5Dolls, T-ARA]

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[A Good Day To Die Hard]

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[Harry Potter]

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[linked for porn, Spartacus: Vengeance]

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lol how about no.

There are people who hate men, yes. They are VERY few in number and they have little to no societal power (let's not even talk about privilege). The hatred of men causes actually ZERO consequences for men other than that they might have their precious fee-fees hurt because a woman doesn't adore them just for being there.

It isn't a thing, and moreover it isn't a thing that anyone should give a fuck about, since proponents of ~misandry~ are massive misogynists who are just looking for an excuse to hate and discriminate against women. ("But she hates men!")

The entire concept of "misandry" was invented by so-called "men's rights activists" in order to discriminate against and attempt to shame and demean feminists and women in general. So I don't think endorsing it is an A+ idea there, buddy. You're pretty much aligning yourself with the most disgusting, sick people on Earth: guys who think it's okay to hurt women, to rape, etc. because "hey, women hurt us too!" Not a great call.

Women who hate men exist. They're very few in number and have little to no societal power or privilege to hurt men beyond hurting their pwecious feelings. So no, it doesn't deserve a label. Calling it "misandry" equates it naturally with "misogyny" and the two don't even remotely add up.

A few men having their feelings hurt versus the massive societal, institutional discrimination against and rape and murder of women GEE I DON'T THINK THOSE ARE THE SAME

DA

..Ugh...AYRT should give up there's no hope with someone as irrational as you. I agree it was a dumb idea for her to say anything (if you want to talk social issues you should do it IRL, you know...where people are rational.)

So you're arguing that men are subhuman because some of them have done terrible things therefore everyone has? Yeah no. That's a dangerous argument because then it gives anyone a chance to define someone as 'beneath them' I'm sure there have been racists who used your line of logic to justify their hating of a different race.

There have been men who have done horrible things but there are also men who have done awesome things. Like this guy : http://25.media.tumblr.com/895eb77581b9013f576105199720edc6/tumblr_mit5kcYu2M1qi7sxyo1_500.jpg

There have been women who have done wonderful things and women who have done horrible things. There have been women who were racist who have hurt children even. Yet do we define women as monsters? No.

I'm just here to point our that dehumanizing is where evil begins. the fact that you say you wouldn't be as sad if AYRT was hurt by a man because it would "teach her that you shouldn't ever defend them" is extremely gross. Everything you have said so far sounds fucked up.

Misandry isn't a thing that exists. At all.

See, the thing is? You're right, there are people who have negative opinions about men! But they don't have, y'know, the societal power or privilege to actually hurt men beyond hurting their feelings. So I wouldn't even start to call "misandry" a real thing that happens. Men still hold pretty much all the societal power and privilege (almost all people in positions of power are men; men have enormous social power and privilege with which to hurt women; when a man hurts a woman, even just socially [i.e. saying she's lying about being raped, or that she's a "slut"], it goes FAR BEYOND just hurting her feelings and into the realm of where it is actually physically dangerous for the woman - WALKING DOWN THE STREET is dangerous for women because of men, so no, that isn't comparable AT ALL to a man having his feelings hurt because he doesn't understand that women who say "I hate men" have a really goddamn good reason for doing so).

Also, "being interested in unlimited boobs and asses" is not widely considered a bad thing (whether they're animated or not doesn't matter). Men aren't shamed for expressing their sexuality like women are. While a few people might think it's gross (mostly women because, GASP, dehumanizing and objectifying women to use as fap material is actually NOT OKAY and really sexist [so basically you are saying it's sexist to be grossed out by sexism lol okay]), by and large society does not give a shit. Men are ENCOURAGED to be loud and proud about their sexuality - people just lol and shrug if a guy watched a lot of porn, guys are encouraged to sleep with a lot of women, and so on. It's societally okay if a man sleeps with a lot of women, or if he just sleeps with one or two women - he doesn't suffer discrimination because of it.

On the other hand, if a woman were interested in images of hot guys, she's shamed for it. (Let's not even get started on how women who are interested in "unlimited boobs and asses" are treated because that's a whole new ballpark of sexism and homophobia.) When women express their sexuality, it's considered shameful, gross, "oversharing" and they're discriminated against for it. If a woman watches porn, she's a pervert, she's gross, she's a slut. If a woman sleeps with a lot of guys (or just a couple of guys!), she's a slut, a whore, she's ostracized and has an increased risk of being raped or harmed. If a woman sleeps with no guys, or just a few guys, she's a prude, she needs to "loosen up," and she's... at an increased risk of rape. Basically women get it coming and going, no matter what - there's no winning.

So yeah, I wouldn't actually compare the two at all, and to say that misandry exists in any form is just completely wrong. Especially when all the shit y'all complain about either is the effect on men of misogyny or, y'know, just some white straight cis dude getting his feelings hurt because women don't love and trust him automatically.

I hope there will be more badass dancing scenes like the ones in Dhoom 2!

Re: The word origin, I don't literally know the entire history of the word. But it has risen to prominence, particularly in recent years, because of so-called "men's rights groups," which are disgustingly misogynistic organizations dedicated, generally, to promoting the rights of men to hate and harm women and promoting a victim complex among privileged men that enables them to continue hating and harming women.

The people who hate men are very few, very far between, and generally lack any societal power to actually hurt men beyond hurting their feelings. It isn't an issue. (I have literally in my entire life only met two women who actually hated men. Both of them are victims of rape and horrible abuse and mistreatment from men. I don't see any problem with it. Considering the harm and abuse that men commit to women, it's hard for me to say there's anything wrong at all with a woman hating men - especially when studies are released saying, for instance, that one in twelve men has committed rape, and that 60% admit they would rape if they knew they would get away with it, to say nothing of the general privilege and sexism men exhibit on a daily basis with street harassment, aggressive treatment of women, abuse, rape, and murder. 90% of rape victims are female and virtually 100% of rapists are men. Think about that, would you?)

As for television shows depicting violence against men... excuse me while I kind of lol because I have literally never seen a television show that "targeted male victims" just because they were men. That does not happen. Period.

Look at television shows. Look who the victims are. Look at your crime shows - Law & Order SVU, Criminal Minds. Who are your victims? Who are the corpses on the floor in the beginning of the episode, or the crying victim on the hospital bed? THEY ARE WOMEN. By and large, women are the victims of violence on television shows.

Or does it not count, to you, if they're already victims by the time you see them on your screen? Does the dead body of a woman victimized by a man not "count"?

Violence against women - and depictions of it in television - are RAMPANT. They are everywhere. Look up the trope of the "women stuffed in refrigerator" - using the deaths of women for cheap, emotional drama for male characters is a huge, huge thing. Framing violence against women only as it effects the man/men in their lives is also a great big sexist trope. And let's not forget how many women on television are hit, smacked, are victims of violent crime or even sexual assault just because "they deserve it" - because they did something in the story that hurt a man, or that wasn't considered "feminine." Using rape as a cheap plotline for drama (or as a cheap backstory device) is extremely common as well.

Look at your TV shows. They don't hate men. They don't depict "violence against men." They depict violence against WOMEN.

"Though I would argue that hatred of anyone based on gender or gender expression often has roots in misogyny." Then why the hell are you in here arguing that some supposed "misandry" exists? For fuck's sake.

Sounds to me like some man hurt your fee-fees and now you're mad at every single one of them.

Also, something needs to have consequences to have a name? That's news to me.

omg, this. I agree that the first few episodes he was leaning toward the asshole side, but i like the word disgruntled. oscar the grouch + hot guy = adorable? haha

:) I already stalk tumblr for these two when I have time to watch an episode.

omg, ME TOO! I'm on the edge of my seat because it def took me a couple of episodes to fall in love with it, and it has it's flaws, but nothing makes me laugh like this show.

You're right, some man did "hurt my fee-fees."

By molesting me. By abusing me. Oh wait, those were multiple men, beginning from when I was about five! I'm sorry, you said "some man" and I went ahead and thought of several. I'm sorry. Silly me.

(Let's not think about the 20+% of men who are admitted rapists. Let's not think about the study that showed that 60% of men would rape if they knew they'd get away with it. Let's not think about the town sheltering a whole bunch of known rapists who raped on video tape because they're football players. Let's not think about how one in three women will be raped in her life and virtually 100% of rapists are men. Let's not think about how men feel like they have the right to stalk and harass and abuse women just because they're women. Let's not talk about all the ways men abuse women. Let's not talk about all the ways men harm women. Let's not talk about the privilege and power that allows men to do these things virtually with impunity. Let's not talk about how three - three! - in every one hundred rapists spends even one single day in jail and how that statistic might be even lower because we just don't know the true extent of how many women are raped every year because society, led by men, has made it shameful and horrible and painful for a woman to talk about her sexual assault, let alone point a finger at her rapist. Let's not talk about that. Let's not think about that. Let's just accuse any woman who dares to think that men don't suffer the same oppression and discrimination that women do every day of having her "feelings hurt" by a man because heaven knows, heaven knows it's just silly and projecting and awful if a woman who says these things has been hurt by a man - it makes it so easy to discredit her and make out like everything she's saying is so wrong and mistaken, I mean, she was hurt by men. That means she doesn't have perspective. Right? Of course.)

For you to claim discrimination yeah, I'd say that this supposed discrimination would have to effect someone negatively. Except it doesn't, because it's bullshit.

Crying "misandry" is like crying "reverse racism" - it's bullshit.

ayrt

Oh yeah, the negotiation of the marriage is totally the spine of the show. The Cold War's more like a metaphor for marriage, two people not understanding each other etc. rather than the other way around. They've been married for like 15 years, but just now something's changing. And all the relationships on the show are kind of played that way--there's also an interesting marriage going on across the street where the husband's just come out of deep cover.

The spy stuff is really fun but we know how it turns out historically so the suspense comes from whether they'll get caught or their kids will find out etc.

Feminism is supposed to promote EQUALITY of the sexes jsyk

It's derailing if someone calls out "misandry" if they are called out when saying something bad about women. But if a woman is saying something legitimately hateful and hurtful. (I've seen a woman claim that male children who are victims of sexual abuse deserve no sympathy. THAT is misandry and there's NO way you can deny that.)

omg this convo made me laugh. "you have a giant ass" would have me in a closet crying with a bottle of wine a couple of years ago. it is def therapeutic to watch mindy look fly every week and have confidence to even bring up her giant ass herself on the show.

23.

But hey, saying "You sound 16, 13 or whatever" is a popular way to blow off someone for disagreeing with you.

I was torn on it when it happened, but looking back I couldn't think of any incident in her past that would have worked as well to do what they wanted it to do. Both for her and to give Phillip the opening to make the choice he does at the end, which changes their relationship.

I never said it was institutional just that it's existent.

I believe that anytime some is judged , insulted or threatened because of their gender it's bad.

Ah then I understand, that does make sense. I don't watch a lot of anime outside of the series' I'm into.

ugghhh thisss! jeans have been a lifelong struggle. forget khakis, blech. basic black pants are horrible.
i've learned- if you find jeans with the right waist to hip ratio, buy like five pairs. they are rare and some brands change their cut year to year.
also, a-line skirts are your friend.
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/bigbootyproblems

...I will never understand the logic behind "giving this phenomenon a name is the same as declaring it above this other thing which our society rightfully puts a lot of money towards preventing. We should just totally ignore it unless it causes more than one thousand victims or lasts for more than one hundred years in society"

I mean I believe more in society learning from it's mistakes , and looking back on the ugly history of women hate and subjugation and going "oh hey this was really shitty of us, let's not do it again" rather than. "the male gender is obviously to blame for this so let's show them what it's like"

The latter only results in perpetuating and endless cycle of revenge and turning the tides of sexism over and over again.

pretty much. watching mindy project just expanded my idea of how curvy you can be and also look super fly and sexy. not "for a bigbooty girl, she's hot" but just "she's hot"
/not many examples of this on tv.

I'm sorry that happened to you.

No, let's actually talk about those things. Talking about those things with a level head is a really good thing, because then some people will listen and take you seriously. But when your battle cry is "ALL MEN are ANIMALS because X % of men would/have XXX", many people stop taking you seriously. And that's not doing the feminist movement any good, is it?

So step away from youre computer where you're just making feminists look like angry people with no control over their emotional outbursts (justified as they may be) and go out and try to make an actual difference in the world. Because you're not helping anyone right now.

As a college professor, I think you should absolutely talk to your teacher. This is the kind of thing we have the authority and the obligation to intervene in. *hugs*

lol, what? no!
/pretty sure we're a minority

yeah, it's a little one-note in earlier episodes. but when it makes me laugh, i laugh hard.
and i love how effervescent mindy is. it's fun fluff tv.

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