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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-03-26 07:01 pm

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[personal profile] badass_tiger 2013-03-26 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
You are not alone, OP. I didn't understand what was so extraordinary and award-winning about it either. Still, I suspect that this is largely because the book offended me early on, so perhaps I can't say much.

I haven't read his other books though. I don't like romance in general, so I'm not really interested. I only read tfios in the first place because all my friends, even those who despise romantic novels, adored it.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Offended you?

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(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Can I ask what offended you with the book? (Just curiosity).

I've only read one of his books (not this one) and was mildly entertained. That's about it. Felt no need to read any of his other books after that, though.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
His plots are ALWAYS the same. Guy is smart, but an outcast, has a small group of friends, meets girl, fails at wooing girl, girl eventually falls in love with him.

The only thing DIFFERENT about TFiOS is that it's a female protagonist. But it's the same formula.

I know that's quite a simple outlook, but it's true.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, this.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2013-03-27 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Zombicorns is different but I dunno if you're counting that. But yeah, I agree.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I like his youtube stuff and I'm not planning on reading it. I don't usually read YA, don't like the sound of it, and I don't want my cynicism about the hype to sour my enjoyment of the rest of his work.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What a unique opinion.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't like it either
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[personal profile] caecilia 2013-03-26 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked the first couple of books I read but after a while his formula gets repetitive and annoying.

I did follow him on tumblr for a while though and I like him as a person.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-26 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh, I loved it. But it's not a book that's for everybody, OP.
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[personal profile] funyarinpainahat 2013-03-27 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Same with me, OP. The first book of his I read was Will Grayson, Will Grayson, and I loved it. Then TFioS was sort of a let down.
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[personal profile] noapologiesx 2013-03-27 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I love John Green as a person and I like his books (Will Grayson Will Grayson is my absolute favorite though it's mostly because of David Levithan) but I really disliked TFiOS. Everything felt so fake. It didn't feel like a narrative with real characters, it felt like the author saying a bunch of things. I'm not sure how to explain it more articulately.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
It's the kind of book that seems specifically designed to make people quote random things from it out of context on Tumblr?

The few pages of it I've read practically cry out "QUOTE ME, I'M DEEP."

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
To be honest, I wasn't a huge fan either. But I love John Green (as a person and a writer) and the story behind TFIOS (Esther Earl) and why he wrote it is beautiful.
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[personal profile] damselflies 2013-03-27 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
I would have liked it more but I just can't get over the way teenagers talk in his books. Everyone is a hipster philosopher who just walked off the set of Juno.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
You must not know a lot of teenagers who think they're super smart when they don't exactly understand what it is they're parroting. I was one, and so were my friends.

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[identity profile] nomorenoodles.livejournal.com 2013-03-27 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
I've only seen quotes from the book and not read it at all (I know the plot though), so I'm not at all judging the actual book, but a lot of quotes I've read that the characters say sound...a bit off-putting? I can't imagine teenagers speaking in that very flowery way. Maybe there's something to the characters' backgrounds that I'm missing (in fact, almost definitely there is) but it's taken me out of wanting to read the book itself.

The plot also seems pretty cliche and predictable, but I thought the twist was interesting.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 04:02 am (UTC)(link)
I like John Green and the stuff he does on YouTube, but I'm not a huge fan of his books. Most of them are pretty standard Manic Pixie Dream Girl plots (Paper Towns deconstructs it in the end, but by that point it felt like too little too late), and when they're not they feel like they're trying to hard to appeal to teenage hipsters.
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[personal profile] autumnal 2013-03-27 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
haven't read that one but i felt this way about the other books by him i did read.
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[personal profile] katya 2013-03-27 03:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I wasn't a fan either. My favorite John Green book is the one that apparently most people don't like, though. (An Abundance of Katherines)

To start with, I got turned off early in the book when Hazel said that something (I don't remember what) was a "boy thing" so she didn't like it. I realize that's mostly the character being dumb, but it annoyed me the same way I'd get annoyed if a real person told me that.

Also... this is maybe a weird personal pet peeve, but Hazel kind of struck me as a "fake" outcast (and Augustus a bit too). Yes, her disease has changed her life and she struggles with that, but the book also makes it quite clear that pre-cancer Hazel was a pretty typical Popular Girl and, while her old friends don't understand or feel 100% comfortable with her now, they've stayed her friends, not kicked her to the curb.

I've met a few guys and gals both who chose to semi-isolate themselves and hang with nerds and outcasts when they really fit in just fine elsewhere, and so often it's less about fitting better with the nerds and freaks, and more about making themselves feel better by being the top of the food chain in this group instead of being NBD in the other group.

(Anonymous) 2013-03-27 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a bit of a weird personal peeve. I'm not saying it's wrong, it's just... People can be surrounded by friends, family and people who love them and still feel like an outcast. You don't actually have to be alone to feel alone. Especially someone with a terminal illness or some kind of mental illness. Plus, it's just hard to be around people who don't understand what you're going through, especially if you're in the thick of it.

Sorry for the ramble. I wasn't a huge fan of the book either (it struck me as a bit too try hard, I guess?) but I actually found that part very relatable.

[personal profile] sochitelya 2013-03-27 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
There's something about John Green that annoys the piss out of me and I'm not even sure what it is. I roll my eyes every time he pops up on Tumblr. Maybe he just comes off as trying too hard.

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[personal profile] ansemaru 2013-03-27 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I hated that book so much. Trite, emotionally manipulative, predictable bullshit whose only saving grace is how much it can be quoted out of context by fans.

Also going "DON'T WORRY THIS ISN'T A CANCER BOOK" when it's just the same as every other fucking cancer book out there in the universe". Fuck off, John Green.