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If you want some really good humanized Lion King, have you seen Pugletto's stuff on tumblr? I'm very fond of it: http://pugletto.tumblr.com/tagged/TLK

That soooo much better!

They're lions. African lions. There should be no question about what race their human counterparts are. I'm so confused by fandom sometimes.

you know that there are a lot more races in africa besides just black right?

Ya don't say? Gosh, I had no idea!

Seriously though, I'm well aware of how large the continent is. The African lion is native to Western Africa. The populations of Western African consist predominantly of dark-skinned people. Therefore, if you're going to draw the lions in human form, it stands to reason that you'd make your character design reflect the look of people who are actually from that area.

This isn't just an 'OMG THEYRE FROM AFRICA!! WHY DIDNT YOU DRAW THEM BLACK!?!?!' reaction; I would have the same reaction if someone anthropomorphized pandas and drew them as black people dressed in Chinese-inspired garb. I would still look at them like 'how in the world does that make ANY sense??'

Yeah, seriously.

Okay, so does that mean pandas must be humanized as only Asian and sand cats as only Middle Eastern?

In my opinion, if you're gonna anthropomorphized an animal that's only found in a very specific region of the world, the human image should correspond to the look of the people found in that region.

Of course, that's my opinion. The fact that this secret exists shows that people don't have to agree with it.

The thing is, though, that humans are animals. Making a humanized version of a lion is no different than making a ferretized version of one. We're apes, they're cats, have at it I say.

Have at it, indeed. I'm not gonna have a cow over it. It just doesn't make sense to me, like when people use strawberry jam for PB&Js. But it's still what they wanna do. I'm not gonna burn them at the stake for it LOL

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(Anonymous) - 2013-04-12 05:54 (UTC) - Expand

There's something to be said for it also being a movie that very definitely takes place in a specific region as well, with a specific cultural influence behind a lot of the aesthetic.

I'm guessing you're either white or have been brainwashed by "colorblind casting" (i.e, we're gonna claim white people do it better even though all the characters in the book/original production were poc).

...But...but aren't lions white skinned?

LOL I'm not sure why but this comment made me giggle. In a totally random way. That's really all I got, anon.

WHAT. lol They are LIONS, and finish there. Their "human counterpart" is nothing, because they are lions. If you want to make them look human versions of the original, use the same color scheme. Golden skin, reddish-gold manes, or black, depending on the lion. Jesus, why do animals have designated human races, I can't even

This. Pugletto's art is pretty, but the characters are completely unrecognizable because the color scheme and overall design is so far from the original animal characters.

Ooooh. I haven't seen these before; I love them. The face paint accents are fab nods to the original designs. Thanks, anon!

Yeah the artist's portrayal of humanized TLK characters are really spot on and race aside, much more visually interesting. There was a cosplay photoset of said interpretations floating around tumblr a few days ago that was top notch.

Was coming hear to link to this as well. I don't even like TLK, but this artist's stuff rocks.

Yep, first artist I found just now when searching for humanoid Lion King characters, and those pictures are truly brilliant.

Yeah seriously I love this art, I cannot with the white TLK shit.

Lol. They are literally lions. They don't represent black Africans. The story itself is Shakespeare, so having them white is not racist. This is blatantly stupid race wank.

Can we not with the IT'S SHAKESPEARE THEREFORE EUROPEAN shit? It has some similar basic themes to Hamlet, but it's about talking lions in Africa. Hamlet has absolutely no bearing on this discussion. It's not Hamlet. Come on.

lol Yeah, because the only animal that matters are humans. I love how people lose their shit of lions being drawn as apes, which humans are. I guess people forget we're animals, too?

What does any of that have to do with my comment?

But that's the point. Saying The Lion King characters MUST BE BLACK is ridiculously stupid, because there is nothing inherent about the story to black Africans. Sure, maybe... the music is African inspired? But they are lions. repeat for clarification: THEY ARE LIONS. They are not humans. The story is not an African folk tale, it's Shakespeare. It's weird to me how far people are reading into the fact that lions live in Africa, therefore there human form must reflect the people native to that place. give me a fucking break.

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