[ SECRET POST #2299 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2299 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kuroko no Basuke]


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[Milestone Inc./Radilgy/Karous]


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[Glee/RPS]


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[The Following]


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10. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil 6]



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11. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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12. [SPOILERS for Homestuck]



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13. [SPOILERS for Southland]



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14. [WARNING for ?? something]



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15. [WARNING for abuse]



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16. [WARNING for rape]



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17. [WARNING for rape]

[Spartacus / Once Upon a Time]


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18. [WARNING for animal abuse]




















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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

He beat up homeless people and mugged pedestrians but let's focus on torturing stray animals instead.

[(Anonymous)]

So you think beating a person up is worse than torturing a cat?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes

[(Anonymous)]

da but yes very much so

[(Anonymous)]

YES!

[(Anonymous)]

DA - they're both bad, but if one was one occasion and the other was a regular thing, I'd be more distressed by the one that seems to be a behavioral pattern over the one that seems to be a one-off "kids do some fucked up shit sometimes" incident.

[(Anonymous)]

No. I think they're both awful but torturing animals is psychologically more messed up than beating up an adult.

da

[(Anonymous)]

All you people who are answering yes to this, you actually think beating up an adult, maybe giving some bruises, is worse than torturing a small animal, who is basically defenseless like a baby?

If so, you're a dumbass and one of the reasons why I prefer animals in the first place over people like you.

Re: da

[(Anonymous)]

"beating up" implies more than just bruises. Also you have no idea if the people he beat up were capable of defending themselves or not.

Re: da

[childings.livejournal.com]

No shit, I work for a worker's comp insurance agency and I can tell you right now that fist fights can kill or maim/disfigure a person for life. I've seen some really horrible injuries resulting from someone getting "beat up"

Re: da

[childings.livejournal.com]

I mean, it really depends on the context of the person getting beaten up. I would agree with you if you're talking like, a run-of-the-mill fist fight between two adults, but what about things like child abuse or neglect? The fact that people in this country apparently care more about abused animals than starving or abused children pisses me right the fuck off.

I'm of the belief that if animals could speak, things might be different.

Re: da

[childings.livejournal.com]

Well, I should say, I "might" agree with you about the adult fist fight, context would really matter here. If one adult was attacked by the other for example, understandable

[childings.livejournal.com]

Both are horrible but I care more about human beings than I do animals, not that I think people should ever harm animals. Put it this way, if I had to choose between saving a person from harm, or saving an animal, I would save the person.

Also I'm pretty sure cats probably feel that same way, not that we could ever really know

[(Anonymous)]

Torturing a cat is definitely worse than beating someone up, I'm sorry. It takes a different - worse - kind of person to torture an animal than brawl with someone.

Torture vs beat

[(Anonymous)]

Think very carefully about the difference between those two words. Think about the motives associated with them. Are you seriously telling me you consider blind rage or violence worse than knowingly, willingly, and deliberately causing excruciating pain to a living thing?

Re: Torture vs beat

[starphotographs]

I was just going to say this.

[hateart]

Yep.

[(Anonymous)]

Ooh, stealth trolling alert.

[(Anonymous)]

YES it is worse dearfuck

[(Anonymous)]

No. torture is worse than just beating up, dearfuck.

[(Anonymous)]

Wow, I worry about all the people in this thread thinking that beating up a person is worse than torturing a helpless animal. Y'know there's a reason why psychologists view animal torture and killing as such a red flag psychological warning sign (because many serial killers started that way) but don't view beating someone up in the same light. Remind me never to let the people on here who think that animal torture is something minor near my pets!

[scrubber]

Torturing animals is considered a warning sign because causing another living thing excessive pain is a bad thing, period. Children aren't really in a position to torture other people so if they act out violence, it has to be on animals 99% of the time because animals are AVAILABLE. Not because they are special or land a special position on some moral hierarchy. When psychopaths or whoever are in a position to hurt people, they DO.

And there probably would've been different answers if the question had been phrased "Which is a more disturbed person, one who tortures animals or one who beats up homeless people?" because the question is which is "worse" and uh, people sympathize with the thinking, feeling being who experiences a variety of anguish when singled out and brutalized for no fucking reason more than the one who doesn't. If you don't get that, then I don't know what to tell you. NEVER LETTING YOU COME AROUND MY CHILDREN OMGOMGMONSTER!!!!1!!!

...And no one will hurt your pets, because no one cares about your pets except you. No one here ever said that animal torture is minor. It's not, everybody knows that. Calm down.

[(Anonymous)]

people sympathize with the thinking, feeling being

Except animals are sentient, thinking and feeling beings too. I'm pretty sure an animal being tortured is going to feel fear and pain in much the same way a human would. All right, they might not have the same thought processes as a human being beaten up (such as the example you gave of the person wondering "why am I being targeted?") but still I don't see why that diminishes their suffering.

It doesn't make sense to me that an animal not being able to understand what's going on, in the same way that an adult human can, somehow makes it less of a crime. A baby wouldn't be able to understand what was going on either if s/he were being tortured, but I'm pretty sure no-one would claim that that somehow makes them a less sympathetic victim. Or that beating up a human adult was worse than torturing a baby for that reason.

[(Anonymous)]

The difference here is

- one apparent torture of an animal
- repetitive acts of beating up homeless people (who trend towards the defenceless, ill and mentally disabled)

No-one here is saying animal torture is okay. They're saying that repeatedly beating up homeless people is worse than one case of torturing an animal. In comparison, yes, one animal tortured, the specifics we don't know about, is minor in comparison to repetitively mugging and beating on homeless people.

If you somehow don't get that, you're the person that needs to be worried about 'cause you're lacking some serious empathy there.

And as above said, none of us a give a fuck about your pets. That's not how it works. Valuing human life above a random animal does not equal animal abusers.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not lacking in empathy because I'd treat both as equally serious. I was assuming this this was about ONE account of beating up a homeless person VS ONE account of torturing an animal. I was unaware that the beating up and mugging (I didn't know mugging was involved at all) of homeless people was a repetitive thing. I'd consider those things to be equally abhorrent since in both cases it's abuse vulnerable and helpless beings.