[ SECRET POST #2299 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2299 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kuroko no Basuke]


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[Milestone Inc./Radilgy/Karous]


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[Glee/RPS]


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[The Following]


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10. [SPOILERS for Resident Evil 6]



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11. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]



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14. [WARNING for ?? something]



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15. [WARNING for abuse]



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16. [WARNING for rape]



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17. [WARNING for rape]

[Spartacus / Once Upon a Time]


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Comments

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

I actually probably started avoiding books because I thought they were too boring. Nothing in particular, but I do remember my reluctance to even touch the "literature" section of Borders - I'll stick to my awesomely fun young adult novels, tyvm. I don't really care about tigers on rafts and purple metaphors for rape or whatever. You're not ~deep~, books, you're just pretentious.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

Hi, how about go fuck yourself?

I mean, yeah, some books are just pretentious. But not everything that's not YA is pretentious just because it's not your thing.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

This is probably true, but most "literature" I've come across has been rather dry and stuffy. I'm not inclined to trawl through the section trying to find the golden eggs when I know there's a whole other section of books that generally don't sound like they've set out to either a) put me to sleep, or b) make me question my IQ.

I like my books to be fun.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

If a piece of fiction has ever made you question your IQ, then you're not as smart as you think you are.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

Oh come on, seriously?

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

Boo-hoo, somebody likes genre fiction over ~literature.~

Yes, I'm serious. How dare I like my books to be FUN instead of using them to make myself look smart. I know I'm smart - the fuck do I need to be reading The Brothers Karamazov on the bus to prove it?

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

Yes. You're very intelligent. That's why you've written off a rather broad category of fiction and are trolling people over it.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

Some people read The Brotherz Karamazov because they like it. Can you seriously not understand that?

I don't mind that you like genre fiction. I like genre fiction. A lot. I mind that you seem to think that the only function of literary fiction is to make oneself look smart. That is dumb.

I know you're trolling. I hope it makes you happy.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

Here's a thought - some people actually read that type of literature because for them, it's FUN. People do actually get genuine enjoyment out of The Brothers Karamazov, and aren't reading it to be pretentious or to look smart.

It may be a slightly different enjoyment that you'd get out of reading YA, but it's still fun for them.

Re: Literature

[intrigueing]

Ha ha how about no.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

/tiniest violin

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

I like reading serious literature. Why do you think that I'm pretentious? Why are you insulting me? I don't insult you for your choice of reading material.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

I never insulted you, I was talking about the books themselves. I have nothing against the people who read them, I just think most things labeled "literature" (as opposed to genre fiction) sound...pretentious.

You do seem a little sensitive, though. Hit a nerve, did I?

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

I wanted to see if I could get across to you why someone might disagree with you, rather than just cursing you out. Guess it didn't work.

I find it hard to conceptualize how you can claim that literary fiction is pretentious without also thinking less of people who enjoy them. If literary fiction is pretentious, then people who enjoy it take it for what it's pretending to be. And that means that people who like it are either pretentious or stupid. Your whole attitude seems to be that literary fiction is insincere - that it's pretentious, that it exists for "making you question your IQ", that is, solely for seeming smart, and that there's nothing "deep" in them. So what about people who sincerely like those books? What about people who do think there's something deep or meaningful in them? I mean, how do you think people are going to respond to that? It comes across as you dismissing a whole field of literature, and doing so in a way that implies that people who like it do so either insincerely or because they're fools. That's no damn good, any more than it is when people who really like literary fiction say that all YA fiction is childish and bad.

Re: Literature

[intrigueing]

*gigglesnort*

"I'm not saying you're pretentious, just that the books you love are!"

"I'm not saying you have bad taste, just that the clothes you like are tacky!"

"I'm not saying you're an idiot, just that your opinions are stupid!"

"I'm not saying you're a bad person, just that your political beliefs are immoral!"

Fuck, yeah, you hit a nerve for basically everyone, bud. Books are pretty serious business.

Also...."literature" is basically used by people to mean complex fiction where the ideas and subject matter, rather than the plot, is the emphasis. Which definitely covers a lot of pretentious books, but pretentious books are only a subset of literature. Or it means "this was published >5 decades ago and people still like reading it." ;)

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

You don't come across like that at all in any of your comments, and I don't think that you care to. You come across as if you think that everyone should be patting you on the back for not liking something. And then, while railing against the supposed pretension of the thing that you dislike, you condescend to everyone who replies to you and declare that you "know [you're] smart."

You're an ass, and that has nothing to do with the kind of books you like to read.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

There's good "literature" and there's bad "literature", just like there's good and bad YA stuff. Literature may not be your thing and you may find it boring, both of which are fine and completely valid. Writing off everything in that extremely broad category as pretentious is ridiculous, though.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

Possibly, and if someone were to rec me literature that they found really interesting, I would be inclined to read it. But if I'm in a book store, looking to buy a book, I'm going to avoid the literature section and browse through the genre fiction instead. Because that's what I'm drawn to.

TBH, though, I'm really fucking amused at all the butthurt my opinion seems to have caused. Usually I get told I'm too old/smart/whatever to be reading genre fiction, so it warms my immature little heart to see people who like literature get bent out of shape that somebody doesn't like their class of books.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

I'll be honest, "literature" became a lot more interesting to me when I could take what I read at face value instead of having to worry about whether a character wearing red socks represented blood on his hands or whatever. Not to mention being able to quit reading a book I hated without having to worry about grades.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, this is probably true. w2g, high school, for making me hate all the books you tried shoving down my throat!

Like I've said upthread, I would probably read something that somebody recced me and told me was really fun and interesting, but given my own choice, I'm making a bee-line for the genre fiction. I feel like I'm less likely to "strike out" with books in that section than books in the literature section.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

I had a similar attitude as OP for the first few years after high school precisely because of what and how I had to read for four years. It didn't help that my school had a small group of pretentious students who thought they were better than everyone because they exclusively read literature for fun. Every teacher in the English department fawned all over them, which just made those students even more insufferable.

I've since gone back and read many of the literature staples of high school that I never personally had to read and found some to be very good, some to be even worse than I suspected when I was younger, and some just kinda meh. Being able to set down anything I didn't like and move onto something else was liberating. I also got a lot more out of reading them for myself than anything I had to read in school because I didn't feel like someone was beating me over the head with A Moral.

let's try another tact

[(Anonymous)]

I actually probably started avoiding books because I thought they were too stupid. Nothing in particular, but I do remember my reluctance to even touch the "Young Adult" section of Borders - I'll stick to my meaty and challenging literature, tyvm. I don't really care about post-apocalypses or fairies or paranormal romances or whatever. You're not ~fun~, books, you're just childish and dumb.

Re: let's try another tact

[(Anonymous)]

Yep I'm the same, I hate to admit I tend to judge people who only read YA.

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

well, here's that "you are what you like" false thing again o_o didn't expect to see it so soon again

well, op, i get what you mean

you can like pretentious things and not be pretentious things

i was kind of surprised when everyone jumped you like that -- your wording didn't strike me as provocative, but just matter of fact vOv

if context matters here, i like pretty much all books ever, even the pretentious ones :P

Re: Literature

[(Anonymous)]

*and not be pretentious yourself