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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-04-27 03:53 pm

[ SECRET POST #2307 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You complain about fairly common word usage but don't capitalize God? :/ I'm thinking you might not be the authority on these things.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-27 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
God is only capitalized at the start of a sentence you know.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
It's always capitalized when referring to the specific god named God. The generic terms "god" and "gods" aren't always capitalized, but seeing as the above OP says "for the love of god" (a phrase referring specifically to the Judeo-Christian god), it should be capitalized.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sarcasm, anon. Sarcasm.
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[personal profile] visp 2013-04-28 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that there is more a question of philosophy than grammar.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. If you're referring to a god whose name is "God," you capitalize it regardless of whether you think the god named God exists or not.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
No god is named "god". Gods in monotheistic religions are sometimes addressed as "God", and capitalized, but that doesn't make it their name.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
So, the Lord's Prayer addressed to God the Father doesn't count? Well, how about God the High and Exalted One, El-Shaddai, or Jehovah? How many titles do they have to use, exactly, before you just suck it up and use the shift key?

If we're going specifically by the Bible, the Judeo-Christian god is called God because His real name is supposed to transcend human perception. For all intents and purposes, God is the name used. Even if it was just a title, it would be equivalent to saying King, and guess what? That's still capitalized.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I don't capitalize "god" because I don't believe in god.

Get off your high horse, theist.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-04-28 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Proper names, which includes nicknames, kennings, titles-used-as-names, and the names of fictional characters, get capitalized.

'God', when referring to the Abrahamic deity, is a name (specifically a title used as a name as a form of circumlocution around his actual name). It gets capitalized.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I don't capitalize things like rocks, why should god(s) get special treatment.
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[personal profile] kamino_neko 2013-04-28 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody's saying 'capitalize "gods"'. They are saying 'capitalize God, because that is his name (by way of circumlocution), and names get capitalized'.

Grammar doesn't give half a fuck about your theological beliefs. Names get capitalized. Period.

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's a rule of the English language? I don't have to believe in Larry to capitalize Larry.

Now, the debate about capitalizing his when referring to God (as in, "according to His will"), now that I can get behind. :)

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Just because Christians weren't terribly creative in naming their god, doesn't mean you don't capitalize the names of specific individuals (real or imagined). If your next-door neighbor names their dog "Dog," you capitalize the D when you ask them, "How did Dog make out at the vet yesterday?" It's not about respect or belief; it's about capitalization rules for names.
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[personal profile] othellia 2013-04-28 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
You don't capitalize Mt. Fuji or the Grand Canyon?

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(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
So, do you just not capitalize the names of fictional characters, then?

God is a name in this case. Capitalize it.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't even a fictional character, it is an abstract concept. A fictional abstract concept, that I'll grant though.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
God is in a book, as a character. Regardless of the concept behind it, this is still true. This is the god that the saying "for the love of God" refers back to.

I repeat, do you not capitalize character names?

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[personal profile] silverau 2013-04-28 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
That's still the proper way to write it whether you believe in God or not. Get off YOUR high horse.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's a proper noun and a name, whether or not you actually believe in the Christian God or not (and even though his _name_ name is Yahweh...screw it, that god has too many names and God is just the easy default one). You capitalize Shiva, Allah, and/or His Noodly Appendage in the same way. Loki and Thor, too, incidentally. Allah isn't a different god than God, Allah is just what they call him in Islam...and Allah literally means "the god."

You're either a troll or being a complete idiot. This is just immature bullshit. You're not being edgy or revolutionary or even close to "forcing" any sort of change on anyone. Capitalize your proper nouns.

And on a side note, I'm not Christian.

You know, speaking as someone who's learning a second language in a totally different script, which has different letters that could mean the same sounds, it's only just now occurred to me what it must look like when I misspell shit. It can seriously fuck with the general comprehensiveness of the sentence.

I dislike you even more now.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 11:47 am (UTC)(link)
well I'll (sort of) support you there. I really don't care what is or isn't grammatically correct, I don't want to honor the christian god with that distinction after having been put through hell by his followers. it was drilled into my head growing up that the capital G was a signifier of respect and honor, and that's not something I want to do. it has nothing to do with being an 'edgy' atheist and everything to do with not giving respect where I don't feel it's deserved.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
And you don't respect grammar. Got it.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Ironically, this is an orthography issue, not a grammar issue.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
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I capitalize God if I'm saying "he believed deeply in God" or "they believed God had intervened" or even "in God we trust".

I don't capitalize it if I'm saying "for god's sake" or "for the love of god" or "goddammit" or otherwise using it as an exclamation. Maybe if I don't capitalize, it doesn't count as taking the Lord's name (er, title) in vain? I'm not actually referring to God, or a god, I'm expressing emphasis.

(Anonymous) 2013-04-28 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I do the same thing.