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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-13 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #2323 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2323 ⌋

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[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2013-05-13 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
While I emphasize with Dean more than Sam, I do see where Sam's coming from. It really doesn't feel that great to keep all your emotions bottled up. Like Dean, I tend to keep my feelings to myself and get annoyed when people pester me about them, but I do feel a lot better when I finally open up.

While season 8 certainly has its flaws, I do like that it has Dean being more open emotionally. That's character development right there.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-05-13 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wish they would stop keeping secrets from each other. It would solve like 95% of their problems.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-05-13 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
This. I just want them to hug and be like "bro I love you, lets not fight and listen to each other for once." But then all the drama between the two would disappear, I guess. My fav moments in spn is when Sam&Dean get along tho.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-05-13 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Sam and Dean: Keep secret, find out about secret, fight about secret, break up for one episode because of secret, get back together, not really talk about secret, repeat.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-05-13 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. As we're approaching season 9, I'd like the boys to shake it up a bit. Suprise us with some communication skills.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-05-13 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh. I wish but I know they won't. That is why I like Cas. At least with him I know something different is going to happen!
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-05-14 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Cas does shake things up! I heard that Misha is going to be a series regular again, which gives me hope. As long as him and Dean aren't still fightening of course.

(I demand season 9 to be the season where bro hugs are the norm, lol.)
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-05-14 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Misha is going to be a regular AND direct an episode.
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[personal profile] sootyowl 2013-05-14 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
I totally heard that and forgot, whoops. I can't wait to see his director skills and what episode he'll do (and if they're are any good D/C scenes tbh).
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-05-14 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I expect he will direct a Cas lite episode like how Jensen directed a Dean lite episode.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Naw, if he starts talking about his feelings, all the secret nerdliness he tries (and fails) so hard to hide is going to come all out in the open too. He'll never live it down. Ever.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I totally get that, OP. I don't want those kinds of moments either. People always nag me about sharing b/c "internalizing" is bad, but if I want to do that, I'll do when I damn well want to and not b/c you nagged me into it. Also, I don't want to talk about it b/c then it's real. What may not have bothered me before will most likely bother me now--i.e. I won't think about it, then I'll "share" it, and then I'll get upset, moody, angry and have trouble dealing w/it then, when I didn't when I was not "sharing" it.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
i.e. I won't think about it, then I'll "share" it

Are "sharing" and "ignoring" really your only two options of dealing with upsetting things? o.O

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Who said I'm "ignoring" it? A lot times what doesn't upset me upsets the person I'm sharing it with. They get upset and make a big deal about something I regarded as nothing, inconsequential, a (very) minor irritant, and then get upset about that I'm not upset. Well, not until they get upset. Then I get upset/mad that they're upset usually. I don't like drama. Sometimes, I can see their point and sometimes that'll upset me, but usually the whole situations/whatever is long past and getting upset now is pointless....b/c of this whole cycle I don't usually share things w/people. It's just not worth upsetting my peace of mind. It's lose-lose. I can work things out by myself.

Sometimes it is something that is upsetting to me and the other person doesn't regard it a big deal and tells me to get over it. Not what I'm looking for. I want empathy, they want me to shut up. Makes me sorry I shared. Also, makes me mad/angry about all the time I've listened to them rant about their problems for hours on end and they can't listen to me for 5 minutes w/o telling me to shut it/calm down. And if they do get upset, I usually end up having to calm them down b/c I don't want to deal w/their drama. It's lose-lose. I want to be the one calmed down tyvm since I'm the one it happened it.

I do sometimes talk things over w/very trusted friends, but mostly they've fallen by the wayside for the most part due to rl (kids, moving away, etc.). Sometimes I post online to see what people suggest if I think I need an outside perspective, but I usually don't. I draw, write, and can get my feelings out, perspective on it, that way usually.
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[personal profile] kluify 2013-05-14 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
As someone who has super close sibling relationships (but with sisters rather than brothers, and normal life issues rather than demons) I've got to say that 'no chick flick moments' is not a good way to deal with your issues with your siblings. You gotta talk about some things at some point! Which is actually a point that the show has repeatedly covered, not that Dean and Sam ever learn anything or have any proper character continuity at all grumble grumble grumble "why don't you stop watching if you think the show is bad" "because i can't okay I JUST CAN'T" ahem.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I just...have to disagree with this. I know that, for me, just talking about my feelings and emotions makes me feel physically sick, and whenever I'm forced to talk about them, I always end up resenting that person. And hey! I still have a super close relationship with my brother! It's just a YMMV thing, I think. What works for you is not going to work for everyone else, that's all.
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[personal profile] kluify 2013-05-14 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I'm not advocating talking every little thing through, but I've found that when there are big issues between two people ala the trust issues Dean and Sam have had (and I've had analogous issues with my sisters), if you don't talk about them in some way, even if it's at least acknowledging the issue at some point, the issues come back to bite you. I agree that different people talk in different ways and different amounts, but I also think there are some situations where you just can't avoid a discussion if you want to have a healthy relationship. Just my 2 cents.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. I rarely, if ever, discuss my feelings with anyone. I'm definitely one of those people who always answers "I'm fine" whenever asked, even if I'm definitely not fine (Doctor, anyone?). Just the thought of discussing my feelings with anyone makes me cringe.

I dunno. I just hate being vulnerable and open like that.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
Look, when not talking about your problems is going to result in your brother turning into a demon and bringing about the apocalypse, you're a fucking idiot for not talking about your problems.

...by which I mean, there's a time and a place, and chick flick moments are necessary sometimes. Being a stoic person just doesn't always work if you want to actually interact with other people on any level.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say that was more of a case of keeping secrets than just plain not talking about feelings. I guess it's the same in some cases, but not always. And not talking about your feelings doesn't mean being a stoic person who doesn't interact with people on a normal level. It just means not examining the deeper part of how you feel about things.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-14 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I understand, but at the same time, 'not talking about it' was a big part of Sam... fucking up massively.
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[personal profile] rivia 2013-05-14 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
yes, because not talking about anything turned out so well for them on the show. not a really good example of what you're trying to go for, OP.
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[personal profile] straycatblues 2013-05-14 11:25 am (UTC)(link)
I like that attitude too,but a lot of the interaction IS chick-flick moments.I guess that's what CW shows thrive on.