[ SECRET POST #2323 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2323 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Atheists just can't fucking win. If we avoid or ignore religion, we're stubborn assholes. If we explore the concept, we're trespassing and making a mockery.

[(Anonymous)]

Boo hoo. Cry into your copy of The God Delusion, skeptibag.

[mekkio]

Skeptibag? That sounds like something you say at the check out.

Hey, do you want these bananas in paper or in plastic?

Nah, skeptibag. I'll just carry them by hand.

[(Anonymous)]

now I'm reading it with a Jamaican accent. Skeptibag, mon! Save da trees!

[(Anonymous)]

Hahahahahaha! :D

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Skeptibag! That's even more delightful to me than ilk!

[(Anonymous)]

Go talk to sky daddy about how a mean skeptibag made your panties twist and caused a mild sin in your nethers.

[mekkio]

And "sky daddy" sounds like an early 60's, Californian surfer. Overly tan and with his Hawaiian shirt always opened to reveal his wash board abs.

What is with these insane names?

[(Anonymous)]

Go talk to Saint Dawkins. Second thoughts, don't: he's a racist, sexist, authoritarian douche.

[(Anonymous)]

That is the biggest failed attempt at an insult I've seen since 'assbutt'.

[mekkio]

And even Cas admitted that it was a poor insult.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't mean all writers, and I didn't mean the general themes that people are referring to above. I meant the authors (mostly fan authors) who either brag about their atheism or bash religion.

Religion gets a LOT of hate on the internet, so it's frustrating that the only time it can be discussed is in fiction, because you can then dismiss it as fiction (I hear the term "kid's stories" often).

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

What prevents you from discussing religion with other religious people, outside of fiction? It seems that people with a common interest should naturally gather to discuss it... or do you mean religion as it specifically relates to fandom?

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

I mean that there's a stigma that if you're religious then you must be less intelligent than the average atheist. Most websites that I'm on (tumblr espeically) seem to regard religion as explicitly fiction, treat it as childish, see no reason why anyone would believe any of it, etc. So religious people therefore stay mum.

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[(Anonymous)]

Oh God, that's the worst.

Actually, no, the worst is when such writers write fictional stories in which it is obvious or provable that no gods exist, or in which religion is evil, and somehow expect that to function as a serious critique of actually-existing religion

looking at you, Melinda Snodgrass

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

....Bzuhwha? I don't remember that from her Star Trek novels. That was a long time ago for me, tho.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Snakes can't talk, women can not become pregnant through magic, there is no historic record of Jesus existing out of magical stories written many years after his supposed death, humans do not survive being eaten by whales, humans can not live for thousands of years, the only mention of Lucifer in the bible is not about a fallen angel, but of a Babylonian king who is likened to Jesus.

There, the Bible is fake, just like every other religion ever created.

Re: OP

[mechanosapience]

The thing to keep in mind is that religion get a lot of hate on the internet, but not so much IRL. The internet can be a safe place for atheists to vent, particularly if their IRL community would not be okay with their lack of belief.

Atheists on the internet can be really obnoxious, but try to remember that what happens on the internet and IRL can be very different.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Because religion is fiction? People are more than welcome to have faith, but if you're really going to tell someone with a straight face that god rides around on a thrown made of wheels that is carried around by four faced monsters is real, or that a talking snake duped a naked woman into eating vegan totes happened then you're asking to be mocked.

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[cbrachyrhynchos]

"mostly fan authors"

So this is a lot of wank about nothing important.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

And, I suspect, only a handful of fan authors at that. Or maybe just the "HP and the Methods of Rationality" dude.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

Religion gets a LOT of hate on the internet

I don't know what country you're in, but only 5% of U.S. citizens self-identify as atheists. They may be overrepresented in areas you hang out (academia, fandom) but I don't buy into the argument that religious people are persecuted or in the minority, even online.

Going online means you will encounter people who disagree, sometimes vociferously or rudely, with your point of view. If you're used to a religious bubble, this can be shocking and disturbing, but the onus isn't on other people to silence their opinions because they make you uncomfortable.

(And I'm not sure what you mean that "the only time it can be discussed is in fiction." You can discuss whatever you want whenever you want.

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[(Anonymous)]

"but the onus isn't on other people to silence their opinions because they make you uncomfortable."

Yeah, this. I mean, I don't excuse people who are rude based on their non-religious/religious beliefs, but it seems a bit naive to expect a whole group of people to behave as a polite monolith when literally EVERY OTHER GROUP in history has never managed to do that. And the hard fact is that people being rude on the internet isn't actually equivalent to what religious organizations have been able to pull off in real life.

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[(Anonymous)]

This, THANKYOU.