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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-18 03:39 pm

[ SECRET POST #2328 ]


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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-05-18 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I haven't loved Wonder Woman like I do with her new storyline in years. It's like something Gaiman would do, if he did Wonder Woman. But instead of the Endless you have the Olympians. And out of all versions of Wonder Woman, I think this one would translate best for a show.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
I like the new Wonder Woman book well enough, I think it's well written and the plot is interesting and the art is good... but I hate what they had to do to her origin story and the Amazons and Themyscira to get there.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you're the only one by any means. But I do think a lot of the people who feel the way you do don't talk about it much because they've withdrawn from following DC and moved on, at least for right now.

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[personal profile] mechanosapience 2013-05-18 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
All I can think looking at this secret is "Why is Superman wearing a turtleneck?"

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not alone, OP. Last I knew, all the titles I was interested in were total crap.

To the folks who still follow the reboot, has Teen Titans become any better? I think I managed two or three issues before I had to stop. Screw you, DC, for ruining one of my favourite superhero teams and friendships.

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[personal profile] dethtoll 2013-05-18 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Not even Animal Man? D:

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[personal profile] quietdragon 2013-05-18 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry about the changes, but I have to compliment you on the typesetting. The bolded words especially feel so much like super hero comic dialogue~!
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[personal profile] omens 2013-05-18 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Euhh. :( I don't want it back anymore though. But at least they can't reboot the dcu THAT LIVES IN MY HEART

...<3

(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
At least Power Girl is less of a slag now. Silver linings and all.
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[personal profile] cloud_riven 2013-05-18 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
This opinion is not uncommon at all. Titles and characters i liked before are pretty much dropped now eg: JLI thanks to it just being terrible and terrible. It's terrible. Plus Booster without a Ted Kord is unlikeable imo.
Oh, and Jaime Reyes' Blue Beetle? His book takes what made his stories interesting (supporting cast and adorableness), and fuck it up because.

Not to say DCU was perfect beforehand, or that there aren't good things now (imo, Red Hood, Wonder Woman, Animal Man, and also super hopefully Earth 2. Man I hope Earth 2 doesn't go awful, because I miss when JSA was happy family legacy times

(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
There's only so long you can maintain a certain level of rage or sadness. I think most of us eventually buried our sorrows and left for sanity's sake. Personally, in the intervening time, I've discovered the First Wonder of the Closed Canon regarding the "old" 52:

Nothing can be retconned anymore.

I miss that there are no new issues of anything that I care about, but I already had serious problems with the art and writing in the last ten years or so anyway. Going back to the 80s and even 90s backissues has felt like a breath of fresh air. You just have to learn to regard it as your favorite series of books where the author died and you never got any resolution to most of the stories.

Because to me, DC Comics went out of business in August 2011.
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[personal profile] lynx 2013-05-18 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Not alone, OP. But I abandoned the fuck out of that ship as soon as I realized it had become a Viking funeral. Ocasionally, I get news of how it's still afloat but twisted and burning and smelling like charred corpses, whisper a bitter remark about past better times and sigh, glad that at least I'm not reading it anymore.

You should try the advice of the Anon who said you should treat it as if the authors had died. It's better that way.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
You're not alone, at all... It's been 2 years and I still can't get over it nor can I read a single issue without cringing. Matter of fact, I haven't read many issues since the reboot and I'm not planning on catching up either.

I'm with you, I'm so sad I could cry.
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[personal profile] truxillogical 2013-05-19 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Not hardly the only one, OP. I still get the rage-sniffles every now and again.

And you're exactly right. Stripping away all of the history does make the new comics feel hollow. Lifeless.

I mean, when's the last time you picked up an indie book about a superhero? A book that was straight-up superhero and not a subversion or a parody? And right now, without the history, that's all they might as well be. It feels like someone awkwardly trying to tell a superhero story from scratch but standing on older work while trying to deny its existence. It requires willing participation in one big massive game of I Don't Remember That And Neither Do You. And it comes off feeling...fake. Ham-handed. Dull. Even the best of the books suffer from it, because, well, I liked the universe. And even in the best of the books, right now, you can see the strings, and that adds to it feeling hollow.

I mean, how often in the nu52 does something read like it was decided in a committee and not because the writer thought it was the best way to tell the story. Heck, most of the original JLI was decided by the editors, in terms of who and what, but you never could tell because it flowed.

I'd hoped, back when the reboot went down, that all my misgivings aside, my suspension of disbelief would stay. But mostly, I find myself thrown out of the universe, and can't find it in me to care much about what happens to any of the characters.

And lets talk about 52 channels and nothing on. It's like if every TV station only played crime dramas. I get that they wanted a unified feel, but wow, it got so unified it's boring. Even the much-mocked grim-and-gritty 90's still gave us Young Justice, Impulse, JLI, a fun Flash, and a not-always depressing Robin. I'm not getting any of that with the nu52. Everything's dark. Everything's sad. Everything's depressing. I've given a pass on some of their best written books because they may be well-written, but cripes, I just want something fun for a little bit to. And with 52 titles, at least five or ten of those SHOULD be cheerful, upbeat books. Sheesh.

I'm not picking up any DC books regularly right now. It's not a boycott or anything. I just...stopped caring.


Except about the Flash. But ignoring it is easier than feeling depressed every time I pick up an issue.

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[personal profile] thezmage 2013-05-19 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know where you go on the Internet where you think most people are over it by now. I frankly haven't seen one other person who wasn't still ranting about the reboot.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
At least you gave it a try? It seemed to me like editorial was keeping the good authors from doing their jobs so I decided to wait until they'd settled down again. Now somehow all this time has passed without my picking up a book ...

A DC book, anyway.
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[personal profile] miarrow 2013-05-19 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
You're not alone, seriously. I am bitter every day about it. They literally erased my childhood. I still don't understand why they couldn't have created another universe like Marvel did with Ulitimates.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
You know I got into the whole comic scene with the new 52, but I have read of the pre-reboot stuff and liked it a whole lot better.

I can completely understand why people hate the new 52... it does seem pretty stale in comparison to what it was before...
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[personal profile] blunderbuss 2013-05-19 07:26 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh, tell me about it. I really liked Jason Todd as the Red Hood and was interested in his own book in the DCnU ... but then they gutted his backstory, made the Joker manipulate everything in his life, and now he's decided to wipe his memory. JASON. The guy who fucking RESENTS being forgotten. Now he's just a 2D parody of himself.

I don't know much about Kory, but man does a lot of the complaints about her seem utterly justified.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 10:11 am (UTC)(link)
Well you can come hang around us Tim Drake fans. We still haven't forgotten the bullshit they did. It's been briefly overshadowed with what happened to Damian but we're still bitter.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 03:01 pm (UTC)(link)
You are so not alone. I just can't think about it too hard or I'll cry.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2013-05-19 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll never be over it tbh. This new universe and its characters don't interest me.
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(Anonymous) 2013-05-20 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Just adding to the chorus, every time I think I'm over it I go back and read something from the old DCU that I loved, and I get to a point that really hit me emotionally, really moved me, and then the little DCNU voice pipes up.

Aww that's sweet. Too bad that character's personality is so different now that they wouldn't make that sacrifice anymore. And the character they shared that moment with? Doesn't even exist anymore. And even if character A were the same, he wouldn't even remember, so this entire scene has been rendered pointless and moot. Every story in this book now officially ends with a variation on "And it was all a dream." Better go read some of our bland NEW stories with the characters you don't even recognize anymore. At least they still have weight.
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-05-21 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
No you're not the only one. I have a lot of friends who are like this.

I'm not over it, and I wasn't even much into comics when it happened. That being said there are a couple titles I do read (Batwoman and Sword of Sorcery, the latter of which was sadly cancelled).