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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-18 03:39 pm

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
because 'females' is dehumanising, 'girls' is belittling and 'women' sounds impersonal and like I'm not including myself. so I say 'ladies' because it, to me, conveys the respect I feel for other women without belittling them or making them sound like objects.

it's coming from the same place culturally that makes me say 'sir' and 'ma'am'. plus I just like the asethetic of the word. laydees. I think it's pretty

(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
"Ladies" sounds more impersonal to me. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
what would sound less impersonal to you? not trying to be combative or anything - just curious?

I remember reading somewhere about the cultural differences between use of the word 'lady' in american vs uk where it pointed out that in the uk, we have ladies as a title of peerage so it's seen as something denoting respect but in america it's more like 'hey lady' like they're picturing a 30s street ruffian with a brooklyn accent or something and it connotes as rude.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Women? idk, it's only in some cases where "ladies" sounds weird to me, and it's often specifically in fandom in the context of characters/people in fandom who are "LADIES guys look how I love LADIES a lot of people don't like the LADIES because they're sexist against the LADIES male characters just aren't as great as LADIES!!" which smacks of condescension and angling for sjw brownie points to me, and always with that one exact word. That's why I specified people in fandom at the start of the thread.

I think maybe it is a tumblr thing because nobody here seems to know what I am talking about...

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. You've just articulated why people on tumblr saying 'ladies' all the time annoys me. I've been trying to figure out why it pisses me off for ages.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-18 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you on all that. Granted I don't like the singular "lady." That, to me, sounds impersonal and somewhat rude. But I suppose I should factor in context when people say it.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

Oh, I actually use "lady" as a kind of term of endearment to my female friends... I frequently say things like "Hey lady!" mixed in with "hi darling," or "hey love." I guess it does just depend on context!

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Same, if I'm going to refer to fellow women as a group I tend to go for 'ladies'. 'Females' is way out for obvious reasons, unless I'm writing a scientific report on human behaviour, 'girls' is only going to happen if they're all under 18 and 'women' just sounds so distant, it's what I hear people using when they want to be insulting "women only want assholes, women only want money, why are there so many women in this workplace".

So ladies it is.

Also it makes me think of everyone in rocking dresses drinking cocktails and chatting about their day as friends.
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[personal profile] lyndis 2013-05-19 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
IME a lot of young women will call a group of women friends/acquaintances "ladies" (like, "Hey ladies! How's it going?") but that might be a midwest thing.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-19 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

My experience as well. I frequently call my friends ladies, and often use it in the singular as well ("Hey lady! What's new?"). I live in Chicago, but I'm from the East coast and use it for friends from everywhere. Lots of my friends use it too, but I suppose I may have infected them.