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⌈ Secret Post #2338 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Saturday Night Live]

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[Homestuck]

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[The Dark Knight trilogy]

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[Star Trek]

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[Daily Show with Jon Stewart & Colbert Report with Stephen Colbert]

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[Neil Gaiman/Amanda Palmer]

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[Late Night Talk Shows]

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[Fruits Basket]

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[Defiance]

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[Phoenix Legend]

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[Kim Possible]

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[Rupert Graves]

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[Hashirama, from Naruto]

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[XXXholic]

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I'm very familiar with this artist's works and have actually wanted to make a secret somewhat similar to yours. I wouldn't have made my point the way you did though, since I have no problem genderbend in general and quite like it when done well. For example, this, because I think making the First Hokage a woman is a really cool idea, though I could do without the romance with Madara angle. I'd have preferred to see his relationship with his canon wife Mito explored instead, but whatever, to each his own.

The thing I have an issue with is that this artist seems to be incapable to of portraying any m/m pairings without genderbending one of the participants. It become gratuitous and pointless when it's applied to characters like Haku. Haku-as-female is utterly uninteresting, and in effect you're also turning one of the only (possible) gay couples in the series into a het one. There are other examples too, and maybe it's a kink of hers, but I just can't help but wonder. If you really can't work with slash pairings, just don't. It's not like this series is lacking in interesting, underdeveloped female characters.

And to my knowledge they've only genderbent this pairing and Zabuza/Haku (I think bc Haku being an underaged male made them uncomfortable). I'm also fairly sure this artist is either gay or bi from what I know of them. I don't think they're homophobic at all.

So the solution is to make him an underaged female???

I don't think the artist's sexuality means anything, the notion of a gay/bi woman being uncomfortable with m/m slash is completely conceivable.

I think they aged Haku up to an adult female iirc.

I don't think shipping preferences have anything to do with LGBT Queer acceptance anymore than someone's orientation might preclude them from liking slash. But that's just a personal opinion.

Then we're right back to "Why genderbend this character if the problem is supposedly his age", aren't we? Why even bring the point up?

In the same vein, someone's orientation doesn't preclude them from not liking something either. Though taking it to homophobic is a bit far, and not really something original anon brought up.

I think it was so Haku would look and sound the same. But they've done aged up male Haku too so I don't see why the first is a big deal.

She's only written genderbent fic of other pairings. The only character that comes to mind right now is Uchiha Shisui, but I do recall several stories like that. I think the only other Naruto pairing this person creates fanworks for is Kimimaro/Anko is which completely crack but at least she's making use of an actual female character from the series.

She ships sasunaru though right? I think that was done m/m?

SA

I've seen her ship other yaoi pairings in other fandoms too not genderbent.

I don't know. As a lesbian it irks me that people use shipping as a surrogate for queer acceptance. Just because you like slash doesn't make you any more open or closed off to gay rights than someone who doesn't. It really irritates me when fangirls say they're for gay rights because then their otp can get married (I'm paraphrasing). It cheapens it. But that's just my opinion.

What does that tangent and your sexuality have anything to do with the topic at hand though?

...because it irritates me when yaoi fangirls start creaming themselves over LGBT issues when really all they care about is fanfic butt sex. It offends me, more so than someone who genderbends occasionally and does so tastefully and non-offensively.

If you don't like it, don't read it. And I'm going to take my own advice and stop following this thread >(

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