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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-06-09 03:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2350 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2350 ⌋

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forgottenjester: (Default)

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-06-09 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait... but if you're the most popular and you don't think you deserve it wouldn't it be good then for you to leave comments on their work to promote them?

I don't know. I feel like I'm missing something here. Is there fandom etiquette I'm unaware of?
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[personal profile] dimestoresaint 2013-06-09 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what I was thinking. If OP is really such a BNF, then they're in a position to help out the writers they think really deserve it.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't read the fic at all, is the thing, because of the guilt and (i'm guessing?) anxiety associated with it.

But I gotta agree that the other authors would probably be pretty stoked to get a comment from you, OP, if you do ever decide to read any!
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-06-09 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! I missed that. But if they don't read the fic how in the world do they know the other writers are better than them? That sounds like low self-esteem talking.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I should have been clearer; what I meant was that I did start out reading fic in the fandom (before I started writing for it, and then before my fics got popular). But then when I did end up becoming a really popular writer I noticed that there was a huge discrepancy between the quality of my very popular work and the much better, less popular works of other writers... and I don't know how or why it happened, but now I don't read other fics at all :\
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Re: OP

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-06-09 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, you shouldn't feel bad about it. Don't let your popularity ruin fandom for you.

If you still feel guilty you can use your popularity to promote them. Otherwise, if I were you I would just try to ignore the discrepancies as best I could. Read what you like. Comment on what you like. Fandom is for fun first. I know it sounds easy to say and hard to do but you don't sound happy about it and if you're not happy that's a problem that needs to be fixed.

I wish you the best of luck and hope all goes well for you.

OP

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you for this... this makes me feel a lot better somehow.
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Re: OP

[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-06-09 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
No problem. I hope you keep feeling better.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-06-10 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Quality may not be an objective thing in this case (you might be a harsher critic of your own work than you are of theirs), or it just may be that you right stuff that *feels* better/more fun, even if the others are technically better. Whatever the reason, I wouldn't let it wear you down too much.

As a lot of others have written, the best thing you can do to assuage the guilt is help those other fans get recognized. I *love* getting fanfic recommendations from authors I like, and I know that when I've been recced, especially by someone I admire, I have felt really flattered! And hey, then you could actually read and enjoy fic again.

What I'm saying is, fandom has clearly recognized you as awesome! And fandom can be even more awesome if you, as someone with a voice, make it all positive and fluffy by showing others some love. :)

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2013-06-10 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with the others, use your popularity to comment on the writers who you feel are better than you. Look how often a writer will put that it means a lot to them if they get a nice comment from a writer they like.

Thing is your stuff is probably a lot better than you think, but even if you are right and the others are more literary, maybe your stuff has themes and plots that appeal more.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2013-06-09 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
But it seems like not reading also makes them feel guilty and anxious?

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
IOW they are thoroughly self-centered. Charming.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
That's sad that that is what you took away from that.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-10 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Why?

Their post basically said, "I'm more popular. I like being popular (which generally means getting comments and feedback), but I'm not going to pass the WAFF around to anyone else."

If one knows how good getting comments / kudos is, and yet chooses to deliberately withhold that good feeling from other writers -- even when all it would take is a simple click of a kudos or favorite button -- then yes, I judge them.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2013-06-09 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I was wondering this too. If you're a BNF, whether you wanted that or not, it seems like you could use that status to rec and promote the work of other writers or at the very least they'd be happy to get comments from you. I don't think anybody should feel obligated to read fic in the fandoms they write in, but this seems like an odd reason not to do it.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
To play the devil's advocate, if it's a one-website/comm fandom, unfortunately that may not make much of a difference. They might be just reading fics for the fandom BNFs, unfortunately. :/ But it's still worth a try.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-06-09 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, so like they're all BNFs? Or...? I don't think I follow. I'm sorry I'm slow today.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-09 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, so say the fandom is basically one comm or website (and I'm getting the impression that more or less may be the case here, maybe even the one I belong to). everyone knows Writer A, so if Writer A writes something, they review it because it's Writer A. Writer A may review Writer B's much better fanfic, but people still pay more attention to Writer A, as opposed to Writer B even though Writer B is the better writer.
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2013-06-09 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh! I get it now. Thank you so much for explaining it to me. I really appreciate it.

That really sucks. You'd think people would be interested in what their favorite author is interested, thinking they would have similar tastes. It may not always be the case but it never hurts to find out. That's how I've found some great fic sometimes. So yeah, that's sad to hear.

(Anonymous) 2013-06-10 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
are author's notes allowed? if so, Writer A can give a shout out to a good fic of Writer B

I've found tons of hidden gems that way
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[personal profile] elialshadowpine 2013-06-10 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Author's notes used in this way are awesome. I've found some great fic because fic authors recommended "if you like this..." stuff in their notes.