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⌈ Secret Post #2350 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/EfHWYCS.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

RISE OF THE GUARDIANS WASN'T EVEN GOOD.

Get out.

[comradesmiler]

Brave wasn't that good either.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm more frustrated by the fact the ~Big Four~ completely cut out Flynn and Astrid and completely ignore their existence despite how they're both important parts of Hiccup and Rapunzel's development.

Also WTF at Rapunzel having her long hair. It's not like cutting it off at the end wasn't a huge significant thing or anything.

[thezmage]

Just saying, Rapunzel's a Gryffinndor. Even though it wasn't familiar at all, she approached the outside world with such courage and determination that I really don't see her belonging in any other house

[(Anonymous)]

Oops I'm probably one of the people you hate because I only care about Rapunzel and Merida (because they don't seem to fit in with the 2d disney princesses) and could care less about Hiccup or Jack Frost.
(Astrid can come too.)

[(Anonymous)]

lol @ you
i loved rise of the guardians and didn't care for how to train your dragon
(i don't care about jack frost or hiccup though, i like the supporting characters better)

[(Anonymous)]

I kinda like Hiccup being in Hufflepuff... Their creed is to love and accept people for who they are, right? To see past social stigmas and judge a person on their own merits? When all the other Hogwarts founders were looking for certain virtues and bloodlines and whatnot, didn't Helga Hufflepuff merely say, "I'll take the lot and treat them just the same"? That's VERY much "Hiccup" to me. Yes, he's very smart and likes to figure things out just like a Ravenclaw, but I think Hiccup excels when he's trying to understand dragons--not just how they work, but their wants and their needs, and how he can balance those needs to make sure that everyone can live and work together harmoniously. That's a cornerstone of the Hufflepuff house, and so I actually kind of love putting him in Hufflepuff over Ravenclaw.

I also love seeing Rapunzel in Ravenclaw! Yes, leaving her tower took a lot of bravery, but notice that she didn't leave her tower until she could do so in an intelligent, (relatively) safe manner. She didn't go storming off into the woods with nothing but her wits the way a Gryffindor (like Merida) would, she brought a GUIDE. She had a PLAN. All things considered, she was pretty intelligent about it! Also, before Rapunzel left her tower, her life consisted entirely of hobbies and intellectual pursuits. At the beginning of the movie she actually says that she LIKES it in her tower! So... I can definitely see her as a Ravenclaw. Maybe she doesn't as overtly "study" things the way Hiccup does, but she IS very smart and obviously loves to learn new things. Personally, I think the "Big Four" sorting of Merida in Gryffindor, Jack into Slytherin, Hiccup into Hufflepuff and Rapunzel in Ravenclaw works really well!

[badass_tiger]

I totally feel you, OP. I think the Big Four thing is pretty ridiculous and yeah, Hiccup is seriously underappreciated. HTTYD was definitely my favourite movie out of all of them :[

[forgottenjester]

I like the idea of the AU but generally I don't like the implementation of it by most fans. I'm not too bummed out though because, hey, I have a scroll button.

[(Anonymous)]

Honey, have you seen the Hijack tag?

Anyways, I always sort of treat the Big Four as one big AU where you could change your favorite characters's with your heart's content, so if you're not happy with the character's "positions" within the group, you can always change it.

Although I will agree that HTTYD is the best movie among them all.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get what Rapunzel's doing there. All the others' stories were pretty open-ended about what happens next for them but Rapunzel got everything she needed to be happy at the end of her movie so I find she's...really out of place there?

That's what bugs me the most. Idk, but I find the whole concept a little embarrassing.

(though I've seen Hiccup/Merida graphics and those were cute actually I'd ship it)

[saiika_von_maou]

Yeah, I don't like the "Big Four" either. Those things don't feel like they have anything to do with each other, except maybe vaguely HTTYD and Brave. And that's the biggest thing for me, that they just don't...click, and nobody seems to want to make them fit together in any kind of interesting way.

Neverminding what I felt about ROTG; the fan content is far more interesting to me than the movie itself. "Big Four" stuff is not one of those things.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't even understand what the Big Four thing is. Why is it even a thing?

[iggy]

Considering that most people I know treat HtTyD like it's the new Iron Giant, I don't think it's underrated?

This crossover makes me :\ because I only really love half of the movies, because it really doesn't make much sense, and because it is so darn ubiquitous. Also I don't really like Rapunzel with anyone but Flynn, and I don't like Merida paired at all.

(Also if you're implying Rapunzel is a Hufflepuff, she totally is not imo. I can see Ravenclaw, but I actually think she's a Gryffindor. That being said I imagine that they just wanted one of the big four in each house.)

[(Anonymous)]

I have no idea what "Big Four" is. That being said, I think Hiccup is cute for an animated character (though his voice grated on me a little). On the other hand, the girl from Brave (name slips me) is not very attractive (and that's okay! etc etc. but her face is ghoulish and her hair is overdone, imo)

I WAS agreeing with you right up until...

[nyxelestia]

"Rise of the Guardians wasn't even good".

I love that movie.

But, apart from that, I actually agree with you. I still side eye all the Hufflepuff!Hiccup and Ravenclaw!Rapunzel because I swear it should be the other way around. No, seriously, think about it - a big part of Rapunzel's character is loyalty, kindness, and hard work (at least hard work given her environment), and Hiccup's story was very much about his cleverness and intelligence.

WHERE THE FUCK DID HUFFLEPUFF!HICCUP AND RAVENCLAW!RAPUNZEL COME FROM?!

And yeah, Hiccup's character tends to draw the short straw in characterization (which sucks, because while I loved Rise of the Guardians, I loved How to Train Your Dragon even more). Some days, I genuinely can't help but think the Houses were chosen based on color scheme than characterization.

[illiadandoddity]

I want to like the Big Four thing, but never ca because the smushes are so shoddily done. When you're going to fuse something like that, you've got to do some serious world building to make that characters and stories all fit.

Like, Merida DunBroch is from an old clan of Scottish wizards, who have a long and proud tradition of magic back from the days when DunBroch was an actual kingdom. Family legend says they were descended from a she-bear transfigured into a woman to become the first king's wife.

Hiccup's family comes from Scotland as well, having emigrated from the Isle of Berk after their long tradition of breeding and training dragons was declared illegal by international magical law (They carry it on in secret, sticking with much smaller breeds of dragons that can be more easily hidden.)

Rapunzel's mother (dunno if Gothel or unnamed queen) is an avid herbologist and breeds new kinds of magical plants. She was working very hard on one which was supposed to reverse the aging process - not to make you look younger, like anti-aging potions, but to actually make you physically younger. As a toddler, Rapunzel wandered into the greenhouse and ate the flower - like any 10-month old, she put anything in her mouth if it would fit. Her hair turned gold, and it's really, incredibly lucky that she ate that flower first, because the next one she put in her mouth really ought to have killed her. Ever since, her mother is exceedingly protective of her. She was lucky she was able to come to Hogwarts at all.

Jack was a fairly ordinary muggle-born boy, who discovered his magic entirely by accident at nine years old when he went out ice skating, fell through the pond, and was somehow still alive by the time his little sister arrived back with help twenty minutes later. He'd been under the frozen pond all that time... his family thought it was a miracle.

See? That's a variation of their backgrounds to fit with the Harry Potter world that still keeps elements of their unique stories. And it took me like twenty minutes.

[writerserenyty]

I don't really like it because I love Tangled so much and I just want pretty Tangled graphics without Jack Frost all up in it.

[(Anonymous)]

Sometimes I feel like half the Big Four fandom didn't even watch How to Train Your Dragon closely enough.

Hiccup is a Ravenclaw with Slytherin tendencies. He snuck his way around and weaseled his way through dragon training by using tricks that he learned from training Toothless. He doesn't have a strong connection to anyone on Berk until the end of the movie - not even his dad - and was willing to leave in order to look out for himself (and Toothless). He lied to save his own skin dozens of times. Plus in Riders of Berk he's incredibly smug and confident, which seems to be his way of latching onto this new found popularity and needs to be knocked back a couple of pegs.

He invents things for fun. He built a fucking bola canon to take down the viking's most dangerous enemy that nobody had ever seen before and then proceeded to watch and learn and observe Toothless. He took Gobber's 'it's the wings and the tail' speech and worked out that he needed to make Toothless another tail fin. He's been working in the forge for more than half his life and has thousands of doodles of inventions and designs strung up around his little part of the work shop. He reads through the Dragon Manual when the other teens expressed disinterest in doing so, without complaining. He learns how to do things on the fly and makes up plans on the spot.

I hate that Hiccup is basically shoe-horned into Hufflepuff because people see Luna in Rapunzel when he's so much more brainier and wittier than her, something Ravenclaw values.

[(Anonymous)]

From what little I've seen, none of them are really well-characterized.

Also I'm the opposite, I liked RoTG (though they could have done more with the characters) and HtTYD was just kind of there. I will say, though, that while it took me most of the movie to warm up to Hiccup, Jack only got less interesting/compelling as I saw more of him.

[morieris]

I 100% agree.

[gabzillaz]

I hate the crossover, but not for those reasons.

[(Anonymous)]

not in any of these fandoms but IA. RotG was boring and predictable as fuck, but yeah had gorgeous character design. HTTYD was by far the best.

[otakugal15]

I FUCKING AGREE SO HARD

Especially about Jack.

Sure, there were some really good little things in RotG, like Babbytooth most likely being his sister, but otherwise? It really wasn't that good of a story. I liked Bunny and North, but that was it. and Pitch was just...ugh. Meh.

But yeah, poor Hiccup!! D: