[ SECRET POST #2354 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2354 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Kodomo no Jikan]


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03.
[figure skating/Brian Joubert]


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04.
[Stargate: Atlantis/ Sesame Street]


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[K project]


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06.
[Teen Wolf]


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07.
[Married...With Children]


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08.
[Homestuck]


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09.
[One Piece]


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10.
[Game of Thrones]


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11.
[Pokémon Black & White]


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[Phantom of the Opera 2004]


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[Iron Man 3]


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14.
[Neverwinter Nights 2]


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15.
[Almost Human/Total Recall 2077]


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[Neil Gaiman and Amanda Palmer]


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17.
[Fire Emblem: Awakening]


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18.
[A Bag of Hammers]


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19.
[Without a Trace]


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20.
[Big Bang Theory]


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21.
[The Three Investigators]


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22.
[Team Fortress 2]


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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 043 secrets from Secret Submission Post #336.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - personal attack ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

So she says but I really wouldn't put it past her to make that up for yet more attention.

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[liveoddly]

I have a bit of a kneejerk response to this, on the same lines as I have a kneejerk response to the idea that celebrities make up being bi/genderqueer/LGBT in general for attention, because while it's possible that they may be making it up, enough people are attacked for faking/lying about those things that this attitude really seems unhelpful. As far as I'm concerned, it's better to give people the benefit of the doubt on that one. It doesn't give them a green card to talk shit that's harmful to other people who've experienced rape, but nor does anything. I just... I feel like you're damaging other people more than you're attacking her when you say stuff like that.

(ETA: Sorry for any lack of clarity. Rereading this, it didn't come out as clear as I thought it had, but I'm not sure how to make it clearer. Gah. I can't words tonight)

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[(Anonymous)]

Agree 100%! I've known people I'm reeeeeaaaaalllly cynical about their special oppressed status, but without evidence I can't in good conscience go around saying that publicly, yanno? Just privately.

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[liveoddly]

Basically. And, I mean, it might be okay to say to a couple of close friends (although still a little dodgy, IMO, if only because it sets a precedent), but saying it on a public forum like this feels like it makes it more acceptable to say that someone else is making it up. Or for someone to say it to themselves. I say this as someone who took years to come to grips with the fact that I was raped, because I was so terrified that a) I was making a fuss over nothing and/or b) other people would think I was. Also as someone who hasn't really come out as genderqueer IRL because I've been called "trenderqueer" so many times online... I think it's throwaway comments like the one above that help to perpetuate that kind of issue, where someone's experiences and identity have to be approved by other people to be considered valid, and that feels hella problematic to me. It seems to me that, even assuming she is lying about being raped, as long as that lie isn't doing anyone any harm it's a lot better than saying that she's lying without proof, which contributes to the climate of fear around reporting that kind of thing. It would be different if there was proof that she was lying, but otherwise... no.

...Apparently I have Feelings about this subject which come out when I'm tired and overwrought. I apologise for going on about it.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this is one thing where I always try to give people benefit of the doubt, for this reason and also because, I figure, with the staggering amount of stigma that rape survivors have to endure, chances are very few people would want to lie about it. Maybe that's naive of me but it's better to ensure doing no harm.

Which is not to say that assholes like Palmer don't make it harder though. I also used to think nobody would actually try to fake a suicide for attention...

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[liveoddly]

Yeah, all of that. I hate the idea that anyone would lie about rape to get revenge on someone, which is a horribly prevalent idea in our culture... I didn't even go through the legal system when I was raped, and I still felt that stigma when I told people about it. Plus, like I said above, I do feel like - all else being equal - the lie which allows people to believe their own experience, while not at all a good thing, is still better than the assumption which leads people to question it.

That bit about the suicide, though... yeah. I threw up a little in my mouth when I heard that, and that's not hyperbole. I mean, I have been in enough situations where I'm worried that someone might try to off themselves that that got to me on a really visceral level. Ugh.

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[kittenmommy]

I just wrote pretty much the same thing, so yeah.

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[(Anonymous)]

go the fuck away

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[(Anonymous)]

You're such a shitstain.