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It's white sugar that's extremely unhealthy. If you substitute it with true raw sugar or honey you could make quite a difference to your health.

DA--actually, any form of concentrated sugar--honey, brown rice or agave syrup, maple syrup, raw sugar--is still, well, concentrated. There's plenty of supposedly healthy junk food out there made with whole grain and raw sugar and a zillion added antioxidants, but neither OP nor anyone else is gonna lose a bunch of weight by eating them rather than regular old cheetos or hersheys or whatever, because a calorie is a calorie whether it comes from white sugar bleached with bone or an apple. Many minimally processed sugars have more trace nutrients than white sugar, but eating a lot of them will still make you fat, in the same way that eating a stick of butter will whether the milk used to make it came from a pastured cow eating organic meadow grass or one pumped full of antibiotics, eating corn and soy, knee deep in shit, on a feedlot.

The best way to lose weight involves eating slightly fewer calories than you burn through activity, every day, for as long as it takes to reach a target weight/size, and then eat pretty much exactly what you burn though activity once you reach that target. Fast weight loss makes your body panic and store every calorie it can as fat. Food isn't your enemy. Don't deprive yourself of treats, but if you can, give up sugary soda/coffee if you drink lots of it, because it's a huge source of calories. So is fruit juice, actually, but at least there's some vitamins and stuff in it. Good luck, OP. I hope you reach your goal and stay healthy doing it.

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OK but to your argument on "unprocessed sugars are still sugars," if you've actually EATEN honey or brown sugar instead of "sugar twin" or "splenda" or w/e else (honey more than brown sugar), you end up using WAY less of it, and it's a natural substance (cue all the bee vomit jokes) so not processed or pure chemicals, etc., and because it tastes sweeter, you have less cravings for it, and so use less.

ymmv, jmo, ime, etc.

I did this (cut out artificial sweeteners plus did trial and error with processed foods to find out which ones had them when they simply said "sugars" [cramps after eating it meant its artificial]) and now I find myself not even using or wanting sugar at all.

Food tastes better to me now; after the initial two weeks I'm not craving sweet things (warning: the first two weeks made me feel like I was in rehab for sugar addiction or some shit; it wasn't pretty, depression, anger out nowhere, exhaustion, manic energy out of nowhere, it was a fucking roller coaster wtf and you don't want to know what went into the toilet D:)

I've become thinner already, at least two sizes. After three weeks. I'm not even doing exercise at all.

A gluten-free diet might or might not be playing a part too, since it's pushed me away from a lot of junk food as well.

I still sometimes eat things like marmalades, peanut butter, etc., so it wasn't a 100% stop all sweet things forever either, just the ones that used artificial sweeteners, whether they were labeled so or not.

Actually, The Calories in/Calories out model that everyone pushes doesn't really work. You've got to create a calorie defecit AND take care of other issues in your body, such as how your body's handling sugars, your insulin levels, your resistance to insulin (Source: Wheat Belly)

They can actually feed skinnier people 1000 extra calories a day for a month and, oddly enough, they don't gain weight. There goes the calorie defecit theory.

Eating a stick of butter from a pastured organic cow is actually better for you. (Source: The Omnivores Dilemma, Primal Blueprint)

If you want quick weight loss, cut the carbs to about 50 quality ones a day, and start up a lifestyle program you can live with. Personally, after a boatload of research, I found that the Primal Blueprint by Mark Sisson and Convict Conditioning worked really, really well for me.

OP, go out there and start researching. Find a diet that works for you, something you can live with, something that you can live on and enjoy life. I've tried Vegan, Raw Vegan, Vegetarian, and then Primal/Paleo, for me, my success (And that of all of my friends!) came through Primal/Paleo. But you've got to try what works for you!

<3 Lots of luck!

AYRT--I'm not disagreeing that honey/raw sugar/etc are better for you than white sugar, in the same way that whole grain flour/rice/whatever is better than white. I've got thirty fruit trees, a big veggie garden, and seven hens, walk at least 2-3 miles a day, and have been vegetarian for twenty years. And I've read The Omnivore's Dilemma. I just know a lot of people who fall for the "oh, it's more natural, that must mean I can eat more of it and still be healthy" crap. But an organic potato chip is still starch fried in fat. Yes, there are some people who are lucky or unlucky enough to naturally lose or hang on to weight easily. But the only way for the OP to know if she's one of them is to go see a nutritionist/personal trainer/doctor/all three and figure that out. We're not going to figure out which she is over the internet. I wasn't stressing 'eat fewer calories than you burn' so much as 'eat slightly fewer calories than you burn.' Quick weight loss does no-one's body any favors. A pound or so a week is reasonable, with maybe a bit of wiggle room if there's a lot of weight to lose. Any more than that and, especially without medical supervision, there might be problems.

I agree with this comment pretty much, though I will add - you do have to eat some calories/carbs and it *is* generally better to avoid processed ones, because they can have extra added chemicals and also cut out important nutrients. That's not directly related to weight loss but it is important for overall health. I'm not an expert but that's my approach at least

HAHAHAHAHA do you know what chemistry is?

You sound like my hippy ex-housemates. They also insisted on expensive "Celtic sea salt" because it was so much "better" than regular NaCl.

but... they do add chemicals and cause chemical reactions in sugars when refining them

(i don't know about honey like ayrt was talking about, though, so i won't touch that one)

The whole point of processing sugar (or salt) is to actually extract out all external components that aren't proper sugar (the molecule). They may use "chemicals" to do that, but they are (in theory at least) rinsed out before the end of the process.

Also, just because something is natural doesn't mean it's better for you than something chemical. Belladonna is natural, for example.

On the other hand, pre-prepared meals tend to contain a lot of salt, sugar and fat that you wouldn't add if you prepared them yourself. Plus preservatives. But that's another debate.

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