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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-07-19 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2390 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2390 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Karl Urban]


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02.
[Legend of Zelda]


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03.
[Pride and Prejudice]


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[Shingeki no Kyojin]


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[Les dossiers du Bell]


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06. [SPOILERS for 'Injustice: Gods Among Us'; 'Man of Steel']



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07. [SPOILERS for Welcome to Night Vale]



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08. [SPOILERS for Young Justice]



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09. [SPOILERS for Merlin]



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10. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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11. [SPOILERS for Umineko no Naku Koro ni]



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12. [WARNING for incest]

[Felica & Ryon Day, "Co-Optitude"]


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14. [WARNING for suicide]



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Notes:

Sorry for late again, work's a bit busy this week.

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Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, you're wrong, and yes, couples without children are still families all on their own.

"Family" is a nebulous and personal concept - if it feels like a family, it's a family. Sometimes families are complete and sometimes they aren't, but it all depends on how you feel about it.

Besides that, what the hell else would you call it?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-19 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
"Besides that, what the hell else would you call it?"

A couple?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-20 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
But people with kids can also still be a couple.

My childed coworkers get to say that they're taking care of their family and have it mean their spouse and children - what do I get to say? "I'm taking care of my couplehood"? That's dumb. I have a family. Just because bringing children into it would destroy both of us doesn't mean we don't love, cherish, support, and take care of each other.

If people can consider non-relatives to be family, then why can't I consider my partner and I to be one?

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-20 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
My childed coworkers get to say that they're taking care of their family and have it mean their spouse and children - what do I get to say? "I'm taking care of my couplehood"?

How about the obvious, "I am taking care of my wife/husband/partner/SO."
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Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

[personal profile] inkdust 2013-07-20 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
A nuance that gets lost by just say partner/SO/etc is that family implies not only the individual members but also the family structure itself and the relationships within it. So to really be equivalent, OP would need to say "my partner and our relationship," which is pretty awkward.

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-20 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
A married couple, a couple, a household, etc., etc.

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-20 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
"Family" is a nebulous and personal concept - if it feels like a family, it's a family. Sometimes families are complete and sometimes they aren't, but it all depends on how you feel about it.

Some couples are families. I grant that.

I think a lot of the confusion is coming from - you see people saying "Couples are families", you assume they mean that every couple is a family, and that just seems deeply wrong and unintuitive.

Like, when do you use the word "couple"? Because to me it just means that someone is dating. So what I'm hearing here is that, if I start going out with someone for six months, we're a family all of a sudden. And that just does not seem right at all.

Re: Does a couple without kids count as "a family"?

(Anonymous) 2013-07-20 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Then call yourself a couple and not a family. I don't see the problem here. The first line there was a direct response to the OP: a committed couple who consider themselves a family are a family, not that all couples were automatically families now.

You become a family when you decide to be a family. My partner and I live together and we care for a cat together - we consider ourselves a family. I'm offended that some people believe that we can't be a family simply because neither of us are interested in having children (and we never will be). If you don't consider you and your partner a family, that's fine, but it's your choice and shouldn't influence how you judge everyone else's definition.