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[The Silmarillion]

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[Fire Emblem: Awakening]

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[Almost Human]

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[Gundam Wing and True Blood]

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[NCIS: LA]

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[Final Fantasy VII Compilation]

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[Tom Hiddleston/Loki]

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[Scott & Bailey]

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[Pokemon, Mondo/Domino]

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[Merlin]

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[Chris Colfer]

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[Danny Phantom]

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[Twin Peaks]

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WTF is a lifer?

I guess I could do this job for life, but I won't. I've been here 3 years already, moving on to a new job next year which will hopefully get me into a magical, stable career (as a job where if I do nothing wrong, they cannot get rid of me. Just...put me somewhere else. score)

Your fellow worker of the world has no understanding of what Big Labour is, has never personally experienced a union and is ??? at this thread. I can complain about work? because I do hate this menial job but hey, money.

Lifer = you have a permament job with one company/agency that you expect to retire from.

Big Labour (think Big Pharma, Big Data, etc.) refers to the shenanigans the (for example) Canadian Autoworkers' Union has been pulling, i.e., looking to absorb smaller unions that protect employees who not only are NOT "autoworkers" they are not ever going to BE autoworkers...and yet they will be, if CAW gets its way, in the autoworkers' uniion.

IOW, instead of specific unions existing to protect specific employees, in specific contexts (information workers are completely different from autoworkers, but CAW wants to absorb them as well), there will be, as the anon somewhere above me points out, ONE BIG UNION (reminiscent of the "Workers of the World = Wobblies" that I referenced in my OP -- it was a movement in the 1930s that was doomed from the start) that essentially won't protect anyone or anything, but its own interests.

Which is exactly the opposite of what a labour union is supposed to do.

ONE BIG UNION was, I believe, an actual Wobblie slogan.

And I think there's a place for that approach. I think the Wobblie idea had a lot going for it. Although I definitely don't know if existing organizations eating smaller unions is the way to go about it, there's a lot to be said for cooperation and working together between unions across different industries, between labor in all fields.

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IA, to a certain extent, but I would rather behemoths like CAW do more cooperating and less coopting. But that's just my own bone to pick. Having worked in a variety of professions also leads me to think that ONE BIG UNION could not possibly address the very unique situations that crop up in individual workplaces...I mean, even within one of the smaller unions, you can run into trouble as an employee, if there are problems in your particular shop/with your particular shop steward! (Which I have never had, but I am both lucky and happy with the union support that I have had.)

Supersizing that just sounds like a bad idea just waiting to happen, IMO. Plus the Wobblies were, IIRC, very violent. Not something I want to see CAW advocating, ever, but I would not put it past them, just because of the sheer numbers they are trying to amass under one umbrella.

I agree that there are things smaller unions are able to do that larger ones might not be able to address; I think it's just a trade-off, you know? You're never going to have something that's totally perfect, and if there are advantages to a smaller union in its ability to address specific grievances, there are also advantages to size.

Plus the Wobblies were, IIRC, very violent. Not something I want to see CAW advocating, ever, but I would not put it past them, just because of the sheer numbers they are trying to amass under one umbrella.

Wellll I think it's probably best to leave aside there to avoid getting into arguments outside the scope of the thread.

OP

Just curious (yes we will leave the other discussion aside, I probably should not have brought it up), but what are the advantages that you can see, to a union being supersized? I am not being sarcastic, I am genuinely curious, and willing to hear the other side, I could be wrong, and am willing to consider hat.

Broadly speaking, leverage, power, influence. I don't think any of those are bad things for a union to have in and of themselves, and I think all of them, the bigger you are, the more you have.

Again, I'm not saying that I'm universally pro-big union over small union; more just that the idea has some logic behind it and it's an idea that has its place.

Confusing. :/

Well, I should be a lifer. My next job is in the public service, so I do intend to retire from it. Might hop around on the particular job, but do hope to stick there.

Not to be a buzzkill. But I have two words for you: Austerity measures. If you're entering a public service that is currently being run by conservatives, you may very well be out of luck at sticking there. But lots of luck, anyway, nonnie!

Not American or European - we have had those (that?) ruled out since WW2, the area I'm going in will be (should be) pretty secure and unaffected despite who's in charge. If it does change I would be shuffled off to a different sector but not be out a job. (hence why going into public service. Security~~~ Provided I pass probation :X)

Thanks! I'm a little nervous considering politics of late, but my future boss called me up to make sure I hadn't changed my mind -so that's hopefully a good sign

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