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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-08-04 03:31 pm

[ SECRET POST #2406 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
that would have been funny if it was done by a non-famous person, though. That kind of shit happens ALL the time. The only reason people flipped their shit over it is because he's famous.

go away, sjw.
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[personal profile] rivia 2013-08-04 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
no, it wouldn't be, and no i won't be.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
But if people flipped their shit about people no one knows, assholes like you would go "but why do you care? They are nobody"

Celebrities have way more influence on society, news at eleven.
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[personal profile] republicanism 2013-08-04 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
well, yeah, him being famous does increase the assholery, considering the fact that the photos from the party were public and had a much better chance of reaching amy winehouse's family/loved ones than some random collegiate douche's kegger party photos ever would

and even if i had been at that hypothetical collegiate douche's party i still would've been like 'wow that's pretty nasty, this person is a douche'

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's necessarily a social justice issue. I would categorize it more as a "modicum of taste" issue.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
"SJW" is the new "Mary Sue". Everyone is one by default nowadays.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2013-08-04 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh no, it would still be disgusting. JFC that's gross, inappropriate and disrespectful.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, no.

She wasted her own life and made a bad joke out of herself. There is nothing disrespectful about noting that someone is a loser and making an example out of that someone.

No one should admire her. No one should defend her. No one should be like her. She made her own choices, and they were all shitty ones, and she paid the price for them.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think making a cake in the likeness of a recently deceased person is in appalling taste even if they're your worst enemy.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-04 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Also totally unappealing in pastry.
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[personal profile] elaminator 2013-08-05 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Wow.

I don't see anyone saying they admire or want to be like her. Obviously the woman made a lot of mistakes and yes she did pay for them, but if you don't see what's distasteful about this whole thing I don't even know what to say to you.

(Okay, I will say this.)

It's spiteful and wrong and could get out to her family and friends (who I'm sure were going through enough pain; no one needs to see something like that).

She's dead. There isn't anything funny about that no matter the reason for her death, and if nothing else the loss of a human life (no matter your feelings toward her), should mean something.

That's all I'm going to say about the subject.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Death is funny. There's no reason for it not to be. We are all going to die. You, me, everyone in this thread. There's no reason to make it more than what it is: the final part of the journey. The part that we all get to share, for better or for worse.

I don't feel any worse about someone mocking Amy Winehouse's death than I do about the Darwin Awards for mocking the deaths of others. And, thing is, if someone on F!S had posted a story from the Darwin Awards in the comments prior to me saying any of this, most of those who are currently incensed would likely have joined in a chorus of "wow, how stupid" and "hahaha." You would not have thought about the fact that the person featured in the tale had friends and family, and that the mockery would most likely have gotten back to said friends and family.

Winehouse was famous.

That's the only thing that makes her different. It's the only thing that makes you care.

But it shouldn't.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I would not be all right with someone making a cake shaped like any recently deceased person. Tasteless and gross.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone keeps saying it's tasteless, but no one is able to say why. They just keep repeating, "tasteless" and "her parents!"

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
omfg are u 14

baby's first nihilist post

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
It's about having respect for life, especially for another human's life. It's about recognising that she was a fellow human being, and a talented artist at that, whose personal demons got the better of her, rather than just a collection of amusing or titillating tabloid factoids. And if you still have to ask 'why' now, then it's you who just doesn't get 'it', or more accurately, 'empathy'.

Yes, death can sometimes be funny, and it definitely happens to us all. But sometimes finding irreverent humour amusing does not negate or mean one doesn't have the right to draw the line and respect the dead.

To counter what you said, if was at a themed party and someone had a zombie cake of a recently deceased unfamous person whom know one at the party had known, I would still be horrified. To mock a personal death for the sake of it is senseless, no matter who it is.

You said "Winehouse was famous. That's the only thing that makes her different. It's the only thing that makes you care." I think it's actually more accurate to say that Winehouse's fame is the only thing that makes people think they have a right to mock her death, because celebrity makes people seem less real.

But it shouldn't.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
That doesn't mean eating a pastry version of her rotting corpse is in any way acceptable.

Like, shit, it even looks gross, why would anyone want to eat that?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Why? What's so terrible about it? Why should anyone care?

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty sure her parents care if someone makes a funny cake version of the dead body of their daughter.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Because it is icky.

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(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 04:47 am (UTC)(link)
Now I'm hungry.
All you Hannibal fans out there understand.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
If she "paid the price" why mock her still? "Lolol it's funny she died" will only hurt her family and friends, not herself because NEWSFLASH dead people are dead and are not looking on from the sky like fucking Mufasa.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Man, I wish they were. That would be fucking awesome.

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
IMO it can be simultaneously tasteless and hilarious.
If that cake is the issue, it probably makes me like NPH even more. n

(Anonymous) 2013-08-05 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Me too.