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⌈ Secret Post #2407 ⌋

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Comments

[sachiko_san]

What? How wouldn't exercise help anyone lose weight? Considering weight loss is basically calories in vs. calories out, being more active and exercising wouldn't help in the least? Holy crap it's so ignorant.

[thene]

I thought I typed a reply to this but I don't see it now. o_0

anyway, the simple math answer is that the numbers involved in exercise calories are way smaller than dietary calories. The average American eats something like 2700 calories a day. Many people can't do enough exercise daily to dent that down to the point where significant weight loss will occur. I try to get a short run in every other day, which is about 200 calories of exercise over & above my resting level of output. Paying attention to what I eat simply has a way larger numerical effect. This is the case for almost everyone who isn't a professional athlete.

It's also notable that every time the food industry pipes up about weight it's to say 'oh, we should PROMOTE EXERCISE' - it's the solution that diverts attention from the real problem, which is our shitty food environment.

[(Anonymous)]

Source for your "average American" eaten calories?

Exercise helps with weight loss. Period. The calories burned from it add to those burned from a person's basal metabolic rate, and studies have shown that it gives said metabolism a boost. Much like eating breakfast.

If your run is only burning 200 calories, that's the fault of your run.

But I guess if you were eating 2,700 calories and only burning 200 calories and then dropped your food down to 1,600 calories or something, of course it's going to feel like food has the greater impact. Because you were eating an obscene amount of food to begin with.

[(Anonymous)]

"Many people can't do enough exercise daily to dent that down to the point where significant weight loss will occur."
Uh, no. They don't do enough exercise daily, not can't. The average American is physically capable of turning off the TV or computer or setting aside whatever it is that they're doing while sitting on their ass and exercising instead.

Your example is based on overeating and not exercising. I can believe the average American overeats but going for a run will burn more than 200 calories unless you're only running a very short distance. In which case: YES, you need to do more exercise in addition to decreasing the amount of calories you take in.

"This is the case for almost everyone who isn't a professional athlete." Really? I mean, really? Because biologically, exercise is as important to health and fitness and weight as diet.

America has a shitty food environment and it's important people seek out foods that are healthy. And it isn't easy to find them. But the average American also leads a sedentary lifestyle that exacerbates weight gain brought on by the shitty food culture. In order to lose weight, a person has to limit their food intake to within the target range for their age, size and gender, and increase their physical activity to the point they are burning a minimum of 500 calories 4-5 times a week.

[(Anonymous)]

Actually, the calorie intake you posted is *way* over. For example, I'm somewhat overweight and that's still 700+ calories over what I eat - and I'll admit I over eat some*.

If you want to talk about weight loss in relation to over eating then yeah. Exercise isn't going to help much because...well. You're just flat out eating too much, then there's no way to make up the extra calories without exercising and unhealthy amount. However, in conjunction with *not* over eating, exercise does help since it increases the calories you use, and those 200 extra calories can make quite a deference.

*and yes, I'm roughly average height.

[sachiko_san]

While a change in eating is also key in losing weight, exercise is also the other part because it helps you to use more calories, which, sorry to say, it doesn't sound like you're doing a enough of. You're not going to lose anything burning only 1400 calories a week (not counting any calories burned going about your normal business and assuming you do short runs 7 days a week). And it sounds like you're looking for an excuse not to push yourself (and others) to do more exercise.

And people can do enough exercise, but a lot of people just choose not to. And we should do more exercise, considering it was just recently that jobs became abundant that require little to no physical labor and people abandoned the family farm for urban living.