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[ SECRET POST #2411 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2411 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Supernatural/Jensen Ackles]

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[Mathias Lillmåns of Finntroll; Jonne Järvelä of Korpiklaani; Heri Joensen of Týr]

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[Welcome to Night Vale]

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[The Sweeney]

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[Bioshock Infinite: Burial at Sea]

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[NCIS]

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[Fire Emblem: Awakening]

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[Chris Hardwick and Janet Varney]

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23. [SPOILERS for Strawberry Night, Strawberry Night: Invisible Rain]
[WARNING for rape]

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[Harry Potter]

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Sorry about that, miscounted during the week and it was a bit longer than usual.

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Protecting your family is like the minimum requirement for not being a complete sociopath.

Risking your life to protect someone you dislike isn't.

I think that, all things considered, Lily would have opted out of his "protection", given that it involved, you know, KILLING HER INFANT SON.

I'm talking about he spent the rest of his life protecting Harry even though he thought he didn't like him.

'Thought he didn't like him' is an interesting way of putting it. I think it hits on something about Snape - it didn't matter at all who Harry actually was or what he was like, because it was never about Harry. And it was never really about Lily or what she'd have wanted either. It's all about Snape and his solipsistic version of the world. Snape makes everything All About Snape.

Snape deliberately tormented Harry at every single opportunity.

And kept an eye out for him and protected him.

Right, reason he thought he didn't like him? Snape bullying small children.

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but seriously proposing handing over a man and his baby to their certain death in exchange for the life of the woman you've had an intense and creepy obsession with (not to mention a woman who would also be sickened if she heard anyone suggest such a thing) is a sign of what exactly...? and gleefully terrorizing school children for years (and pretty much destroying what little self esteem Neville had to the point where a creature that takes the shape of your worst nightmares took the form of his teacher) makes you...an admirable person?

but he was so noooooooble

and everyone knows that just because Snape, as an adult, redeemed some of his horrible actions by fighting against Voldemort doesn't mean that James could redeem himself after being a douchebag teenager. that's just preposterous

seriously though, what is it about snape that makes people so willing to mark out for him

it's really mystifying to me (unless it actually just is "was played by alan rickman", and i really don't want to believe that)

I liked Snape before the movies, because he was an interesting and horribly flawed individual. I tend to block out the part of his story that ended with "I only did the things I did because I was obsessed with your mom." I tend to block out the entirety of the last book, tbh.

Yeah but it's one thing to find him interesting and another thing entirely to defend him

just does not make a lick of sense

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my favorite part of the last book was when harry, ron, and hermione had a threeway marriage and lived for the rest of their days in the forest and sometimes luna was there too

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I believe it >:C

Women give attractive men a free pass. Fandom curse.

Sexism aside, I'm a heterosexual male. And I think Snape was a good guy at the end of the series.

some of it is "was played by alan rickman".

a lot of it, though, is people framing Snape as the bullied geek and identifying with him, and placing James & co in the role of their own high school tormentors. Thus Snape is automatically good and the people who bullied him are irredeemably bad, because emotional response has no room for logic or nuance.

I think a lot of people are willing to be more sympathetic to shitty behavior that is the result of being a victim of bullying or other trauma than they are to forgive shitty behavior coming from someone of a privileged background who does terrible things to others apparently just for the hell of it. In both cases the things they do are shitty, but it's easier to understand someone who does horrible things because they are wounded and broken than someone who does horrible things because lol.

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and pretty much destroying what little self esteem Neville had to the point where a creature that takes the shape of your worst nightmares took the form of his teacher

This is one of the things that made me incapable of truly sympathizing with Snape's character. Being bullied by other kids in school? Yeah, it sucked but I could handle it. Having to go to class every day to deal with a spiteful, cruel adult who dared to call themselves a teacher (although "deal with" isn't really the right phrasing. It was more like I had to sit there and not say anything because I knew I would get punished if I talked back)? I never got over that. No one should be afraid just to go to class

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Being bullied by other children was traumatic but at least I know there is a fair chance that they eventually grew out of being assholes. But an adult who uses their authority to bully children? There are no words for how disgraceful and pathetic that is

Made all the more horrific when you take into account that much of Neville's underlying lack of confidence and vulnerability is because Snape's cronies tortured his parents to insanity. Acting on Snape's intel. Is the man incapable of shame, or what?

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THIS DROVE ME CRAZY

Jesus, didn't Rowling realize that including that part made Snape's treatment of Neville even more grotesque? I mean, good lord, that's just monstrous.

It could be interpreted as being partially driven by guilt, because Snape was definitely immature and volatile enough to be the sort of person who lashed out at anyone who made him feel bad, even if only by being a reminder of horrible shit he was responsible for.

Which isn't anything near excusable, but is a little more understandable than him just ignoring or conveniently forgetting that detail.

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Yes, I think only people who've been bullied and harassed by their teachers can truly understand how it feels like.
My math teacher insulted me with sexist slurs each day and he even downright told my parents that he thought my "brain was incapable of understanding mathematics". We complained about his behaviour countless of times but no one dared to take my side because it meant the teacher would target them as well.
I can't believe I put up with this as long as I did. I ended up changing schools because of this piece of shit and later on sent him an angry letter with my improved math grades. No therapy could give me this feeling of victory when I heard that he was being angry at me for writing to him and sending him a copy of my certificate.

Having had experience with a bullying teacher myself (one that arguably affected the whole of the rest of my life), I agree with you.

Oh you mean like James did with Snape in the Whomping Willow?

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